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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    Wtf, why is that legal?
    Because our laws regarding healthcare are worse that any other developed nation.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Okay. I'll stop sharing my views.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    This makes me wonder what would happen when the sacks of human garbage in the GOP finally get their way and a case like this goes to the SCOTUS. Will everyone else have the courage/conviction to finally take a stand against them trying to turn us into Amerikastan?
    In many states, like the one I live in (California), abortion is a state law and the federal government banning it won't override it. In the same way marijuana is legal in California but not federally.

    And abortion is already effectively banned in at least 5-6 states now, by only allowing it before 6 weeks. Most women don't even find out they are pregnant until around 8+ weeks.

  3. #103
    The more I learn about US politics, the more everything said about Republicans makes sense to me. This was shit move.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    It's pretty sexist to assume abortion being available is in a womans interest. I think abortions should be banned.
    Even in case of rapes? Incest coupled with rapes? Or how about some 11 year old girl becoming pregnant? Or how about when the pregnancy is going to kill you? Still think so?

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Even in case of rapes? Incest coupled with rapes? Or how about some 11 year old girl becoming pregnant? Or how about when the pregnancy is going to kill you? Still think so?
    There's already six pages of this...
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  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    You serious? My mom had friends that died from having illicit abortions. One of the poor souls barely made it out alive. It was illegal here under the commies. It didn't stop women from having abortions. It just stopped them from accessing real, safe healthcare, which I assume you want women to have.

    As a medic, I find your stance as mind boggling. Is it a religious thing? To clarify, I'm not super-progressive about this and most definitely late term abortions should not be something done at will, but to remove them from legal healthcare would be catastrophic for women. And you are one, yeah?

    Insert mind being blown gif.
    And even then, here's the thing. Imagine this scenario: A woman choosing to carry a baby for 6+ months, having to deal with all the awfulness that comes with pregnancy, as a medic I'm sure you are very aware of what that entails. Do you really think a woman would willfully choose to put themselves through that and then be like "whoops nah, actually I changed my mind" later and abort it? Hell no. There are no "willful late term abortions" because exactly zero women take 6+ months of excruciating pregnancy to make up their mind on whether they actually want a baby or not.

    It honestly boggles my mind that there are men out there that really think women choose to do that to themselves, and that there are women out there just straight up murdering viable babies that they had to deal with carrying inside of them for 6+ months. There are no women doing that, it's a freaking myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Because our laws regarding healthcare are worse that any other developed nation.
    But hey, at least the government is keeping its hands off our medicare right?

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    It honestly boggles my mind that there are men out there that really think women choose to do that to themselves, and that there are women out there just straight up murdering viable babies that they had to deal with carrying inside of them for 6+ months. There are no women doing that, it's a freaking myth.
    You have to consider that something like 40% of the US population believes that the earth (and the universe, for that matter) is less than 10,000 years old...so no amount of statistics about abortion rates and timing is likely to change their dogmatic beliefs about the "irresponsible sluts who just want to murder their babies."

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    You have to consider that something like 40% of the US population believes that the earth (and the universe, for that matter) is less than 10,000 years old...so no amount of statistics about abortion rates and timing is likely to change their dogmatic beliefs about the "irresponsible sluts who just want to murder their babies."
    I mean do they not have women in their lives, especially women who have had children before? I think if you put two and two together it becomes pretty obvious that pregnancy is pretty shitty and all that. It's like these men just never stop and think about what pregnancy is even like for women or know nothing about it or don't even bother to learn anything about what it is like. But of course they have an opinion about what women should be able to do with their bodies despite not even bothering to learn anything about women's bodies, pregnancy, etc.

    But honestly I'm not surprised, especially considering before I linked that Ohio representative who thinks you can fix an ectopic pregnancy by just moving the egg back into the uterus when that's not scientifically possible lol.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    I mean do they not have women in their lives, especially women who have had children before?
    Thing is, "the women in their lives" believe a lot of the same things that they do, for the same religious reasons. There is also the possibility/probability that people writing and supporting laws like this are in a position to have to never deal with the the consequences and realities of unwanted pregnancies...because they are either wealthy (or devoted) enough to deal with having a dozen children running around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    if a murderer kills you and your fetus, I am quite sure it counts in a lot of areas, since we're talking the US:

    I fail to see how the "pro life" crowd' efforts to ram abortion bans in through backdoor is relevant to this discussion.

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  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    I fail to see how the "pro life" crowd' efforts to ram abortion bans in through backdoor is relevant to this discussion.
    They aren't pro life, they are pro birth. They could give a crap once the baby is born

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valeron View Post
    They aren't pro life, they are pro birth. They could give a crap once the baby is born
    Hence the quotation marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    is male masturbabting like a genocide?
    By the way some of these people define personhood . . . yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    How is a woman fighting against her own interests if they support republican party?
    Similar to how is a Jewish person fighting against their own interests if they support white nationalism? Example: Stephen Miller

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    They don't have to care for it, they can put it up for adoption if they don't want it.
    I love this line of thinking, like having even more kids without parents will help in any way and adoption centers have unlimited space. I guarantee you that in five years of abortion being illegal thousands of them will die due to lack of money. Of course the only way to do so is more taxes, but hey if that's what you want.

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  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    The government should be there to help people who struggle to provide for their family.
    Do the US strike you as a country caring for the people struggling to put food on the table or pay medical bills?

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by ipaq View Post
    Jinro is obviously a twat.

    Why feeding it?
    You may notice that I didn't after that post I know from past posts that I've seen that I shouldn't bother.
    Often updated... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Lmao, as if being a woman means I should have specific opinions.
    It's not an opinion that you'll have more choices being pro-choice. That's a fact. If I said my car was red and it actually is painted red then that would also not be an opinion.

  19. #119
    99 years in prison....

    You can rape someone and get sentenced for less.


    So if someone rapes a women and she get's pregnant he could get a lighter sentence then the women who got raped and aborts the pregnancy.

    Wow republicans, very classy!
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  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Valeron View Post
    They aren't pro life, they are pro birth. They could give a crap once the baby is born
    They're not pro-birth. They're pro-"bare feet and pregnant".

    If they were pro-birth, they would actually try to do something about the US's dismal maternal and infant death rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    As a medic, I find your stance as mind boggling. Is it a religious thing? To clarify, I'm not super-progressive about this and most definitely late term abortions should not be something done at will, but to remove them from legal healthcare would be catastrophic for women. And you are one, yeah?

    Insert mind being blown gif.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerri_Santoro

    A reminder on why Roe v Wade happened. And yes the article is fucking horrifying. Click at your own risk.

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