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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshingo View Post
    So Jared finally uploaded a response:



    Seems to pretty definitively disprove the worst accusations against him, about the "sending underage nudes to kids deliberately."

    The NSFW blog is still nasty as hell, but plenty of people like stuff I don't personally and they were all adults so I donno man.
    Am i supposed to feel bad for him?
    This is exactly the kind of climate and norm he have been apart of creating, it blew back into your face? Tough shit idiot, enjoy your sjw's going on witch-hunts and cancel culture.

  2. #102
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    Cheating is wrong in my book. I don't like it and definitely don't like when people try to excuse it but who cares?

    Unless this guy's is doesn't something (some people say he was, I never heard of him or know his business), we pay too much attention to the personal lives of entertainers. I know I'm guilty of it.

    Shame on him if the illegal allegations are real (and shame on him for cheating but again, not really our business).

  3. #103
    So did his ex-wife ever confirm if they were in an open marriage? Because her tweets seem to imply that wasn't the case while his statement says it was.

    Either way, the dude does seem like a creep, based off his tumblr shenanigans.

    And he has a weak chin. I don't trust men with weak chins.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Stelio Kontos View Post
    So did his ex-wife ever confirm if they were in an open marriage? Because her tweets seem to imply that wasn't the case while his statement says it was.

    Either way, the dude does seem like a creep, based off his tumblr shenanigans.

    And he has a weak chin. I don't trust men with weak chins.
    She confimed that she asked for an open relationship, but quickly realized that would not work out and both stopped her relationship and expected him to stop his. She states that despite her politely asking Jared to handle the Holly situation (she has posted an email or something she sent to him which was worded very politely, basically saying "I'm uncomfortable that she's still this attached to you" which suggests she thought their relationship was over, and he was trying to convince her of such without it being true), she was unaware they were still seeing each other.

    My opinion? Anyone who makes a pre-recorded video who can't clean themselves up beforehand deserves to be mistrusted. I can understand that Jared is probably depressed about the whole situation and how it came down on him, but a pre-recorded video is a pre-recorded video. He had all the time in the world to clean himself up. His mopey, red-eyed, unshaven look doesn't look like a man who is depressed - It looks staged for sympathy when you realize he could have recorded this at any moment, and CHOSE a moment he looked bad.

    Once I have volume I'll listen to what he has to say because I truly don't want to believe he's this shitty of a person, but thus far, he's not giving himself a great start.
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  5. #105
    Once I have volume I'll listen to what he has to say because I truly don't want to believe he's this shitty of a person, but thus far, he's not giving himself a great start.
    What lol.

    What a great measure of a person's ability to tell the truth. Ever think maybe he's just depressed since the entire internet hates his guts, he lost all of his friends, and everybody thinks he's a pedophile?

    Also that account of events above is Heidi's own claims, which Holly and others have already poked a bunch of holes in with proof. Especially if you've asked your spouse for a divorce and they refuse and you know that they're legit crazy and will either do it or threaten suicide if you try to leave them. You have no obligation to remain faithful to that person, you've already revoked your own consent in the relationship to begin with.

    Jared shows a text from a third party therapist talking about how he's trying to figure out a way to separate from her with the therapist saying she's going to threaten suicide and Jared acknowledging that this is how he's been getting controlled. In a private text way back in November.
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  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshingo View Post
    What lol.

    What a great measure of a person's ability to tell the truth. Ever think maybe he's just depressed since the entire internet hates his guts, he lost all of his friends, and everybody thinks he's a pedophile?
    Yes. I even cover that in my post. (With the exception of the 'lost all his friends' part, because 'lost his internet friends' doesn't translate to 'lost all his friends' - And I don't claim to know his personal life.)

    I can understand that Jared is probably depressed about the whole situation and how it came down on him, but a pre-recorded video is a pre-recorded video. He had all the time in the world to clean himself up. His mopey, red-eyed, unshaven look doesn't look like a man who is depressed - It looks staged for sympathy when you realize he could have recorded this at any moment, and CHOSE a moment he looked bad.
    But, most importantly: He can be depressed and STILL be trying to garner sympathy. I'd be pretty damn depressed if I was accused of being a pedophile, even if I've never done or had anything that would suggest I am. But if I had to make a video saying "I'm not guilty", and I had all the time in the world to make that video, I'd make sure I look ready to make my statement of innocence - Not like I just finished crying, hadn't shaved in weeks, and like my skin is covered in dirt.

    Also that account of events above is Heidi's own claims, which Holly and others have already poked a bunch of holes in with proof.
    I haven't seen any proof that Heidi did not stop seeing her open-relationship partner, nor have I seen proof that Heidi is even lying about any of it in the first place. And yes, "She didn't tell the whole story right away" is not proof of lying.

    Even Holly's tweetstorm about it, proved Heidi right more than wrong. It showed Holly being complicit and admitting she and Jared were in the wrong with how they were acting.

    Especially if you've asked your spouse for a divorce and they refuse and you know that they're legit crazy and will either do it or threaten suicide if you try to leave them. You have no obligation to remain faithful to that person, you've already revoked your own consent in the relationship to begin with.
    Do we know this though?

    We know Jared had tried to break up with her before - Heidi confirmed this. That's where the open relationship eventually came from. But only Jared has said she threatened suicide - Heidi claims they were trying to work through it. And yes, if they agreed to work through it, they DO have an obligation to that person - They have directly stated they are still in this and want it to work by stating they want to work through it.

    Jared shows a text from a third party therapist talking about how he's trying to figure out a way to separate from her with the therapist saying she's going to threaten suicide and Jared acknowledging that this is how he's been getting controlled. In a private text way back in November.
    And no, Jared showing a text with a therapist saying she's going to commit suicide is not proof that a) she had ever done so, nor b) she would. If anything, I'm questioning the therapist more than ever - Why would a therapist take sides like that? Even if she had at one point threatened suicide over them breaking up, why would a therapist put MORE stress on the people seeing them by suggesting that suicide would be suggested if they broke up? That most certainly does not sound like a licensed professional in that sort of field.

    EDIT:: Having watched the video now: So his "I'm not cheating" story that happens in the video is broken down quite simply.

    "I tried to break up with her and she said no. So it wasn't cheating because I tried."

    That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

    I understand why he felt forced to stay presuming he is telling the truth about Heidi being as insane as she is - But he stayed. Period. He quite literally says, and it is proven in his own texts, that he DID choose to stay, even if he didn't want to. Which means he WAS still married, and he WAS cheating when he slept with Holly while still married.

    People say dumb stuff when they are hurt. Do I doubt that she threatened suicide? Not really, though there's no proof to it, it wouldn't be the first time someone did so. Do I doubt that she said a lot of things which made him uncomfortable with breaking up with her? No, that seems very likely given Heidi has admit to saying a bunch of stupid stuff. But what all of the above isn't, is an excuse to cheat. And he was a married man, who slept with another woman. Regardless of how justified he can try to say it was, regardless of how checked out of the relationship he was, he chose to stay, then slept with Holly while still married. That is cheating.
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    Drama centre, not watching 42 minutes, I didn't really watch him and I'm not going to change that now.

  8. #108
    But what all of the above isn't, is an excuse to cheat. And he was a married man, who slept with another woman. Regardless of how justified he can try to say it was, regardless of how checked out of the relationship he was, he chose to stay, then slept with Holly while still married. That is cheating.
    I mean no, with everything that's come out, sorry, no.

    You've clearly taken a side and that's fine, but you're just factually wrong about the events here. You're not burden to being faithful to a relationship you've repeatedly tried to get out of but are being basically blackmailed to continuing otherwise your insane ex will destroy your career with accusations, things we've seen her directly state.

    Plenty of couples who split up start dating other people before their divorce is finalized (Another lie of Heidi's by the way, claiming she started the proceedings when court documents show it was Jared).

    But I mean feel free to keep defending the insane abuser who uses threats of suicide to blackmail their partner. Not interested in continuing discussing with somebody defending such detestable behavior, as somebody with direct experience with the subject of psychological manipulation.
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  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshingo View Post
    I mean no, with everything that's come out, sorry, no.

    You've clearly taken a side and that's fine, but you're just factually wrong about the events here. You're not burden to being faithful to a relationship you've repeatedly tried to get out of but are being basically blackmailed to continuing otherwise your insane ex will destroy your career with accusations, things we've seen her directly state.

    Plenty of couples who split up start dating other people before their divorce is finalized (Another lie of Heidi's by the way, claiming she started the proceedings when court documents show it was Jared).

    But I mean feel free to keep defending the insane abuser who uses threats of suicide to blackmail their partner. Not interested in continuing discussing with somebody defending such detestable behavior, as somebody with direct experience with the subject of psychological manipulation.
    So... Instead of fighting the logic, which is to show exactly how it is in fact still cheating, you resort to trying to attack my character and insist I'm taking a blind stance.

    I mean, if that's your perogative.
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  10. #110
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    That's more indicative of MMO-C's political leanings. Over in the anime thread, everyone turned on Vic Mignogna when the accusations came out despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
    Maybe he should stop kissing and hugging underage girls without their consent.

  11. #111
    Things keep getting spicier.

    Pamela Horton, mentioned in Jared's video because she put out a statement saying that she heard a story about Jared sharing her former playboy photos with other guys derogatorily, came out with a video basically saying that she was essentially wrong and basically just repeated something she was told by somebody else. And that the two of them spoke and she essentially realized her apprehension of a few events between the two of them were just harmless misunderstandings or her misconstruing what he actually thought.



    Following this, a friend of Pam, Amelia Talon, a fellow cosplayer who seemingly inserted herself into the situation for no apparent reason other than to (and I hate using this phrase because of the internet) "virtue signal" about how bad Jared was, came out apologizing to him for repeating the same story she had no actual knowledge of in a hotel room. On twitter she's gone even further stating that she's upset that Heidi bringing up Holly's nudes spurred her on to making the original comment and Heidi seems to be losing defenders quickly beyond mindless internet posters.



    Something I did appreciate in Amelia's video was her still talking about how the nudes tumblr was wrong and gross, because that's a stance that doesn't seem to be allowed to be expressed. You either have to 100% side with Heidi and the two liars accusing him of stuff or you have to 100% find everything Jared did okay. You can believe the child pornography stuff is a lie (based on evidence that it was) while also finding that tumblr blog fucking nasty AND still thinking that him cheating (If he did, which seems a suspect claim now) doesn't matter because it's nobody's business but theirs.

    Look don't judge me, its good popcorn entertainment while grinding Island Expeditions for the twelve millionth time.
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  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshingo View Post
    Things keep getting spicier.

    Pamela Horton, mentioned in Jared's video because she put out a statement saying that she heard a story about Jared sharing her former playboy photos with other guys derogatorily, came out with a video basically saying that she was essentially wrong and basically just repeated something she was told by somebody else. And that the two of them spoke and she essentially realized her apprehension of a few events between the two of them were just harmless misunderstandings or her misconstruing what he actually thought.



    Following this, a friend of Pam, Amelia Talon, a fellow cosplayer who seemingly inserted herself into the situation for no apparent reason other than to (and I hate using this phrase because of the internet) "virtue signal" about how bad Jared was, came out apologizing to him for repeating the same story she had no actual knowledge of in a hotel room. On twitter she's gone even further stating that she's upset that Heidi bringing up Holly's nudes spurred her on to making the original comment and Heidi seems to be losing defenders quickly beyond mindless internet posters.



    Something I did appreciate in Amelia's video was her still talking about how the nudes tumblr was wrong and gross, because that's a stance that doesn't seem to be allowed to be expressed. You either have to 100% side with Heidi and the two liars accusing him of stuff or you have to 100% find everything Jared did okay. You can believe the child pornography stuff is a lie (based on evidence that it was) while also finding that tumblr blog fucking nasty AND still thinking that him cheating (If he did, which seems a suspect claim now) doesn't matter because it's nobody's business but theirs.

    Look don't judge me, its good popcorn entertainment while grinding Island Expeditions for the twelve millionth time.
    Regarding all of this, the cheating stuff should just be between the 2 of them and should be nobodies business but them. The only thing i found disturbing was the underage thing and i am glad he adressed that. Also the Pamela Horton thing, she was on a panel with MatPat and another guy, and from a quick glance just looking at both Jared and that guy you can honestly mistake him for Jared.
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  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Regarding all of this, the cheating stuff should just be between the 2 of them and should be nobodies business but them. The only thing i found disturbing was the underage thing and i am glad he adressed that. Also the Pamela Horton thing, she was on a panel with MatPat and another guy, and from a quick glance just looking at both Jared and that guy you can honestly mistake him for Jared.
    According to her video, people were just assuming that she was vaguely referring to the panel itself. She claims she wasn't, it was something beforehand, but she doesn't go into specifics. She does, however, say that this was one of the things the two of them discussed and cleared up some apparent miscommunication between the two that led her to believe he was being intentionally rude to her when he wasn't.

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