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  1. #101
    Who cares about the gear when the classes still suck ass ?
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  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    According to @Puremallace the item level cap of 8.2 is 445.
    And Nazjatar gear is 430!!!!!
    I will finally not be at a big disadvantage in PvP!
    You aren't at a massive disadvantage with the way scaling works now anyway, but the farm will not be a short one, it has only just hit ptr but people are theorising the gear takes a fair bit of farming to grab one piece.

    also no the Cap is 10 Ilvl above Mythic (which is 445) so the cap will be 455. Heroic Equiv is 430.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Elias01 View Post
    Most of you forget that those items are account bound. So you can farm pearls on another few more alts and send everhing to your main.
    If that's the case, then I REALLY don't see blizzard handing these out by the handfuls. Otherwise every casual/non-raider will be sitting at 430 gear in 2-3 weeks. And they need those people hanging around working on stuff.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    The hardest content i do right now is LFR or Mythic 0 dungeons...and to be quite honest there is nothing else to do as a casual player.

    Now comes Nazjatar.
    And you are telling me...i will now be able to be ilvl 430...without RNG...farming world content...everyday...for weeks?
    And then i need to go to Mechagon to farm weapons, rings and trinkets?
    And then i need to farm world content to unlock the neckpiece talents?

    Man...seems like an adventure to me specially with warmode on.

    Am i missing something important? Or is it really true that a casual player will have all this things to do?
    Seems dreamy.
    The only issue with Nazjatar right now seems to be that it kinda doesn't have any content. It's not packed with world quests and content as Argus was, but right now it's mostly empty.

    That being said, that's pretty good. Contentwise BfA really doesn't offer anything long term for the casual players (=most players) beside low m+ keys. All of the content that's intended for most people becomes pointless after 1 week max.
    I have really enjoyed all of the MoP islands, Tanaan, Broken Shore and Argus and so I am excited for this as well.
    Last edited by RobertMugabe; 2019-05-10 at 11:40 AM.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    The only issue with Nazjatar right now seems to be that it kinda doesn't have any content. It's not packed with world quests and content as Argus was, but right now it's mostly empty.

    That being said, that's pretty good. Contentwise BfA really doesn't offer anything long term for the casual players (=most players) beside low m+ keys. All of the content that's intended for most people becomes pointless after 1 week max.
    I have really enjoyed all of the MoP islands, Tanaan, Broken Shore and Argus and so I am excited for this as well.
    Lets hope everything goes well.

    What i want is
    -2 months of farm maximum
    -items to stay bind on account like in PTR

    If this holds true...it will be a nice personal quest of mine
    Last edited by Togabito; 2019-05-10 at 12:40 PM.

  6. #106
    Imo the fact you can get Heroic raid gear from catch up this early tells me they are in need of a huge carrot to bring players back.

    This won't work.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Imo the fact you can get Heroic raid gear from catch up this early tells me they are in need of a huge carrot to bring players back.

    This won't work.
    Ofc it wont work. Casual player base (i am talking about real casual player base not that entilted something) is not interested in this welfare system. Getting free gear for mindless task have 0 value to player. Getting free gear will never make you happy or keep playing game longer. People will just log in for month do bit 8.2 content and quit when afrter hitting their apathy towards gear which will be super fast and quit again.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Elias01 View Post
    Ofc it wont work. Casual player base (i am talking about real casual player base not that entilted something) is not interested in this welfare system. Getting free gear for mindless task have 0 value to player. Getting free gear will never make you happy or keep playing game longer. People will just log in for month do bit 8.2 content and quit when afrter hitting their apathy towards gear which will be super fast and quit again.
    It will work for me...

    All i wanted was "something to do" everyday for a reward.
    430 ilvl gear will unlock me "power in duels" in front of Stormwind.

    Seems perfect FOR ME. A crazy specific, very specific casual player.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    It will work for me...

    All i wanted was "something to do" everyday for a reward.
    430 ilvl gear will unlock me "power in duels" in front of Stormwind.

    Seems perfect FOR ME. A crazy specific, very specific casual player.
    Yes becouse you are that part of entilted casual audience. But this part of community was never majority.

  10. #110
    It's better to have a clear progression path that you do at your own pace without having to sacrifice important time.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    What would you call me then?

    There are, absolutely, several types of casuals.
    Im one type of it.
    There are several many more. "Skilled casual" is one of them. Specially with interaction with a Guild or Community.
    Casual can mean someone who plays alot but only does simple none hard stuff or it can also mean barely plays but does hard stuff im more in the alot of time but likes easy stuff categoary people forget that somtimes.

  12. #112
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker1 View Post
    Casual can mean someone who plays alot but only does simple none hard stuff or it can also mean barely plays but does hard stuff im more in the alot of time but likes easy stuff categoary people forget that somtimes.
    Casual can also mean you like a little bit of everything.
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  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.
    Imho the reason it looks weird to some people that place was ment to be under water but people bitched about it in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.

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    Casual can also mean you like a little bit of everything.
    Thats very true as well.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.

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    Casual can also mean you like a little bit of everything.
    Mechagon does.

    Naz looks godawful imo.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    Right now, all i do is LFR...there is literally nothing else i do.
    I think this is the issue. A lot of people ONLY do the bare minimum because they don't NEED to do more than the bare minimum. If only you needed to do dungeons before you could raid, gear before you did dungeons, level before you geared.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Maudib View Post
    I think this is the issue. A lot of people ONLY do the bare minimum because they don't NEED to do more than the bare minimum. If only you needed to do dungeons before you could raid, gear before you did dungeons, level before you geared.
    Exactly.

    Now you can just do quests and be raid ready in a day or two.

    It's insane how broken the progression is just because people believe they deserve to be on par with Heroic raiders in terms of item level.

  17. #117
    hopefully it will be good leveling gear when this bfa shitshow is over and done with
    "I'm Tru @ w/e I do" ~ TM

  18. #118
    Pretty sure the duels in front of stormwind thing is pure BS. It doesn't match with LFR-only heroes.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Maudib View Post
    I think this is the issue. A lot of people ONLY do the bare minimum because they don't NEED to do more than the bare minimum. If only you needed to do dungeons before you could raid, gear before you did dungeons, level before you geared.
    I appreciate this version of WoW BUT i also appreciate the Classic WoW experience.
    Both for different reasons.

    Yes, i am lazy on "current WoW" and i kinda like it.
    Classic i will need to "work hard" and i kinda like it also.

    I think we NEED both this versions of World of Warcraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sencha View Post
    Pretty sure the duels in front of stormwind thing is pure BS. It doesn't match with LFR-only heroes.
    Why else would i want gear?

    All i do is random BGs and Duels and World PvP. I do nothing else.
    (well...i do LFR and Mythic 0 to get gear)

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by tru View Post
    hopefully it will be good leveling gear when this bfa shitshow is over and done with
    I'm afraid if you aren't happy with BfA, that whatever follows will be more of the same.

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