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  1. #101
    Imo the fact you can get Heroic raid gear from catch up this early tells me they are in need of a huge carrot to bring players back.

    This won't work.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Imo the fact you can get Heroic raid gear from catch up this early tells me they are in need of a huge carrot to bring players back.

    This won't work.
    Ofc it wont work. Casual player base (i am talking about real casual player base not that entilted something) is not interested in this welfare system. Getting free gear for mindless task have 0 value to player. Getting free gear will never make you happy or keep playing game longer. People will just log in for month do bit 8.2 content and quit when afrter hitting their apathy towards gear which will be super fast and quit again.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Elias01 View Post
    Ofc it wont work. Casual player base (i am talking about real casual player base not that entilted something) is not interested in this welfare system. Getting free gear for mindless task have 0 value to player. Getting free gear will never make you happy or keep playing game longer. People will just log in for month do bit 8.2 content and quit when afrter hitting their apathy towards gear which will be super fast and quit again.
    It will work for me...

    All i wanted was "something to do" everyday for a reward.
    430 ilvl gear will unlock me "power in duels" in front of Stormwind.

    Seems perfect FOR ME. A crazy specific, very specific casual player.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    It will work for me...

    All i wanted was "something to do" everyday for a reward.
    430 ilvl gear will unlock me "power in duels" in front of Stormwind.

    Seems perfect FOR ME. A crazy specific, very specific casual player.
    Yes becouse you are that part of entilted casual audience. But this part of community was never majority.

  5. #105
    It's better to have a clear progression path that you do at your own pace without having to sacrifice important time.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    What would you call me then?

    There are, absolutely, several types of casuals.
    Im one type of it.
    There are several many more. "Skilled casual" is one of them. Specially with interaction with a Guild or Community.
    Casual can mean someone who plays alot but only does simple none hard stuff or it can also mean barely plays but does hard stuff im more in the alot of time but likes easy stuff categoary people forget that somtimes.

  7. #107
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker1 View Post
    Casual can mean someone who plays alot but only does simple none hard stuff or it can also mean barely plays but does hard stuff im more in the alot of time but likes easy stuff categoary people forget that somtimes.
    Casual can also mean you like a little bit of everything.
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  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.
    Imho the reason it looks weird to some people that place was ment to be under water but people bitched about it in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.

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    Casual can also mean you like a little bit of everything.
    Thats very true as well.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I am excited too OP, the new zones actually look half decent regardless of the downers.

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    Casual can also mean you like a little bit of everything.
    Mechagon does.

    Naz looks godawful imo.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    Right now, all i do is LFR...there is literally nothing else i do.
    I think this is the issue. A lot of people ONLY do the bare minimum because they don't NEED to do more than the bare minimum. If only you needed to do dungeons before you could raid, gear before you did dungeons, level before you geared.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Maudib View Post
    I think this is the issue. A lot of people ONLY do the bare minimum because they don't NEED to do more than the bare minimum. If only you needed to do dungeons before you could raid, gear before you did dungeons, level before you geared.
    Exactly.

    Now you can just do quests and be raid ready in a day or two.

    It's insane how broken the progression is just because people believe they deserve to be on par with Heroic raiders in terms of item level.

  12. #112
    hopefully it will be good leveling gear when this bfa shitshow is over and done with
    "I'm Tru @ w/e I do" ~ TM

  13. #113
    Pretty sure the duels in front of stormwind thing is pure BS. It doesn't match with LFR-only heroes.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Maudib View Post
    I think this is the issue. A lot of people ONLY do the bare minimum because they don't NEED to do more than the bare minimum. If only you needed to do dungeons before you could raid, gear before you did dungeons, level before you geared.
    I appreciate this version of WoW BUT i also appreciate the Classic WoW experience.
    Both for different reasons.

    Yes, i am lazy on "current WoW" and i kinda like it.
    Classic i will need to "work hard" and i kinda like it also.

    I think we NEED both this versions of World of Warcraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sencha View Post
    Pretty sure the duels in front of stormwind thing is pure BS. It doesn't match with LFR-only heroes.
    Why else would i want gear?

    All i do is random BGs and Duels and World PvP. I do nothing else.
    (well...i do LFR and Mythic 0 to get gear)

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by tru View Post
    hopefully it will be good leveling gear when this bfa shitshow is over and done with
    I'm afraid if you aren't happy with BfA, that whatever follows will be more of the same.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    It's insane how broken the progression is just because people believe they deserve to be on par with Heroic raiders in terms of item level.
    People fling that around so much. No one deserves anything really, except for some standout achievements and they get those. If everyone arrives at 430 there really is no big deal. Heroic raiders get there much faster anyway, while mythic raider push harder content for higher lvl gear anyway and give zero fucks about that 430 gear anyway.

  17. #117
    Oh man... i hope they become soulbound then.

    I hate when you have to play alts to progress your main... that's something F2P games tend to do to boost their active playerbase and it's not fun whatsoever.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Exactly.

    Now you can just do quests and be raid ready in a day or two.

    It's insane how broken the progression is just because people believe they deserve to be on par with Heroic raiders in terms of item level.
    " people believe they deserve to be on par with Heroic raiders in terms of item level."Thats a massive lie right there blizzard gave us the rewards not us of course we are going for them don't be silly blame the company not the players.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Tang0 View Post
    People fling that around so much. No one deserves anything really, except for some standout achievements and they get those. If everyone arrives at 430 there really is no big deal. Heroic raiders get there much faster anyway, while mythic raider push harder content for higher lvl gear anyway and give zero fucks about that 430 gear anyway.
    Yes it is a problem.

    It invalidates 3/4 raid difficulties for progression. Which is supposed to be one of the two main endgame progression sources alongside Mythic +.

    This gear should go to 400 at most. That's it.
    Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2019-05-10 at 02:33 PM.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Yes it is a problem.

    It invalidates 3/4 raid difficulties for progression. Which is supposed to be one of the two main endgame progression sources alongside Mythic +.

    This gear should go to 400 at most. That's it.
    "tradition is the enemy of progress"

    This will keep a certain type of players busy and extremely happy in the end.

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