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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    From the article.
    What the fuck? How can people support this? Also 6 weeks, wtf? Unless you're actively tring to have a child you wouldn't even notice it by then.

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    Attention men -- if the thought of an abortion disgusts you. Make a change. Have a vasectomy and stop it before it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    What the fuck? How can people support this? Also 6 weeks, wtf? Unless you're actively tring to have a child you wouldn't even notice it by then.
    That’s why these kinds of bills are controversial.
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    This is fucking disgusting. That case of the 11 year old is fucking disgusting. Being raped is traumatic enough but then having to have having to carry this permanent reminder for almost a year to full term, to give it up to the state who will treat it like shit, not even encountering any medical problems for the child or mother during the Pregancy. it's hypocrisy. people only care about the baby in its first nine months, they don't care about the child after birth, and they give 0 shits of the mother from the moment of conception. Disgusting. They may be something, but they are not pro life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    This is fucking disgusting. That case of the 11 year old is fucking disgusting. Being raped is traumatic enough but then having to have having to carry this permanent reminder for almost a year to full term, to give it up to the state who will treat it like shit, not even encountering any medical problems for the child or mother during the Pregancy. it's hypocrisy. people only care about the baby in its first nine months, they don't care about the child after birth, and they give 0 shits of the mother from the moment of conception. Disgusting. They may be something, but they are not pro life.
    Welcome to the hypocrisy of the "pro-life" movement. I would like to think most people call them what they actually are, anti-choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    So those who are raped...?
    Why does it always go to that? I never once said that abortion SHOULD be illegal. If you actually read my statements, I am clearly talking about abortion post sexual choice. I just think there should possibly be much more weight put on the choices to engage sexually, and after that choice has been made the decision should also not be a simple one to decide to just abort. Abortion should not be a carefree solution to the pregnancy that arises from consensual sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooti View Post
    I just think there should possibly be much more weight put on the choices to engage sexually
    Convenient how you want to put that weight only on women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Attention men -- if the thought of an abortion disgusts you. Make a change. Have a vasectomy and stop it before it happens.
    Sadly even that is not 100% save, same for ANY method for preventing a pregnancy.

    So even IF you take precaution you still can get fucked up.

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    good for alabama hopefully when the tides turn and richard spencer is in the white house ordering abortion based on someones genetics people will turn around on the issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Has lost its way View Post
    Do you have numbers?

    I grow weary of people who want a thesis to dismiss a stupid point. Either defend your position or don't... and no searching the world for the most restrictive countries isn't a strong position.
    Yes, I have. At least for ectopic pregnancies, which is somewhere between 1 and 2%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy

    Rate of miscarriage: 50-70% for a fertilized egg; 10-15% after an average woman knows she's pregnant
    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322634.php

    Risk of stillbirth (which is anywhere after 20 weeks) is around 1%, but not all of them are potentially lethal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabrotar View Post
    Sadly even that is not 100% save, same for ANY method for preventing a pregnancy.

    So even IF you take precaution you still can get fucked up.
    99.999% is pretty darn close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    What the fuck? How can people support this? Also 6 weeks, wtf? Unless you're actively tring to have a child you wouldn't even notice it by then.
    Actually, there's a great many symptoms you can develop in early weeks of pregnancy. Most obvious one, being late on your period. There's nausea, especially in the morning; swollen or tender breasts; mood swings; change of taste perception; headaches and dizzyness; mood swings; frequent urge to urinate; and weird cravings for food.

    I agree withyou though that this law is atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    99.999% is pretty darn close.
    It's not that close either. It's still pretty safe, though. If you want to be as safe as you can be, use several methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Attention men -- if the thought of an abortion disgusts you. Make a change. Have a vasectomy and stop it before it happens.
    For women, get your fallopian tubes completely removed (ovaries remain). Pregnancy won’t be possible unless you get treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Actually, there's a great many symptoms you can develop in early weeks of pregnancy. Most obvious one, being late on your period. There's nausea, especially in the morning; swollen or tender breasts; mood swings; change of taste perception; headaches and dizzyness; mood swings; frequent urge to urinate; and weird cravings for food.

    I agree withyou though that this law is atrocious.

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    It's not that close either. It's still pretty safe, though. If you want to be as safe as you can be, use several methods.
    Not everyone get those. Being late on period can have numerous causes. I don't even get it when using hormonal birth control. Stress can cause it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooti View Post
    Why does it always go to that? I never once said that abortion SHOULD be illegal. If you actually read my statements, I am clearly talking about abortion post sexual choice. I just think there should possibly be much more weight put on the choices to engage sexually, and after that choice has been made the decision should also not be a simple one to decide to just abort. Abortion should not be a carefree solution to the pregnancy that arises from consensual sex.
    Abortion isn't a carefree choice.

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    Republican lawmakers sending their mistresses in convoys to neighboring states to take care of their oops' is going to be funny.

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    why the f8ck is abortion still illegal ? why the f8ck seriously those 'pro-life' who don't give a single f8ck about a baby after it is born just want to keep it alive against their own mother/father will ?
    flash news earth is near limit and is seriously way over populated, if they care about life so much why don't they stop their military who did the most war crimes in recent history ? where is their 'pro-life' love for Iraqians who they f8cked their country in name of 'mass destruction weapons' that are still not found after 18 years ? 'oops we f8cked ur everything, nvm'
    tbh it really seems they are against woman have some freedom than to actually care about a life
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Don't do this, medical advice. Simply don't. You don't need a surgical intervention that requires another surgical intervention to undo when you can use a condom, or contraceptives if your significant other is OK with them and tolerates them well.

    Surgical interventions, even of the smaller scale, are supposed to be a last resort in medicine. If you want to see what will be done to your inner reproductive system workings, google it, watch a video, and if you still want it done, good for you, who am I to stop you.

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    Do understand what you're getting into.
    Oh I understand that you shouldn't have to do it unless you want to. It's a decision that should be left up to the man himself. Just like abortion is completely up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. The point of the post was to make it a point that if you're a man you can make the decision to have a vasectomy if you don't want women to have an abortion. You don't get to blame women for unwanted pregnancy when there is something you can do about it.

    And for the record I was told I was sterile at a younger age and I still went ahead and had a vasectomy anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Actually, there's a great many symptoms you can develop in early weeks of pregnancy. Most obvious one, being late on your period. There's nausea, especially in the morning; swollen or tender breasts; mood swings; change of taste perception; headaches and dizzyness; mood swings; frequent urge to urinate; and weird cravings for food.
    all those symptoms refer to either late after 6 weeks by ages or can be unrelated to pregnancy in first place, in fact u can spend years not even getting period (yes u read it correct, YEARS) if u are hard vegan for example due to lack of essential vitamins in ur diet
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Don't do this, medical advice. Simply don't. You don't need a surgical intervention that requires another surgical intervention to undo when you can use a condom, or contraceptives if your significant other is OK with them and tolerates them well.

    Surgical interventions, even of the smaller scale, are supposed to be a last resort in medicine. If you want to see what will be done to your inner reproductive system workings, google it, watch a video, and if you still want it done, good for you, who am I to stop you.

    Also:


    Do understand what you're getting into.
    Contraceptives are no guarantee to not get pregnant. I am pregnant due to it failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    all those symptoms refer to either late after 6 weeks by ages or can be unrelated to pregnancy in first place, in fact u can spend years not even getting period (yes u read it correct, YEARS) if u are hard vegan for example due to lack of essential vitamins in ur diet
    you can also have other conditions like PCO, Hashimoto or just obesity or anorexia and have your period with rather strange patterns. I've had times when I didn't get one for 3-4 months.

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