Another thought is that in this internet era, socialization has lessened significantly.
Social cues, mannerisms, etc have not been learned enough.
Just a possibility
Always seemed a bit insensitive to me to complain about a problem other people would love to have
In general? Fuck no lol. Call me whatever you want, but, me being a coward in my own opinion, think fearing for your life if you reject a guy is weak-ass thing, seriously. Same thing with people fearing for their lives if someone just looks at them wrong in the supermarket, like come on man, get a grip.
Being aware of your surroundings and recognizing that this could mean danger is great, but it doesn't mean you actuallly are in danger.
*Obviously, you can take precautions if you really think you're dealing with a legit psycho who might have a meltdown or something, but fear for life still doesn't seem worth it.
Someone who wants to kill you tend to do so regardless and not so...obviously.
Last edited by Halyon; 2019-05-13 at 09:06 PM.
Of course. Every man who ever got rejected by a woman always beats her, rapes her, and kills her. Every single woman knows that. I mean, every single woman who lives on the internet. People who live in the actual world, and don't pay attention to the bullshit fearmongering and propaganda probably never seen one single guy get violent when rejected. Well, when sober at least, since I suppose drunks sometimes might get violent, rejected or not.
Also, the facebug post quoted in OP is the cringiest shit I've seen on the internet, and I've seen a lot.
If the future is female...get ready for apocalypse.
I don't think there's anything wrong with telling someone you would like to go out on a date in an appropriate social context. If your overture is rejected you shouldn't get angry or violent about it, either; handling rejection with gracefulness can actually make a very good impression and even lead to future opportunities (though you shouldn't bank on that either). Social contexts where you should ask a person about possible dating are ones where interaction should be expected: bars, parties, group gatherings, etc. etc. Places where you probably shouldn't approach someone are places where there's an expectation of privacy or where there's no avenues of withdraw - public transit, taxis, or settings where open conversations aren't expected. You should also avoid it in situations that include an automatic imbalance of power - be it supervisor/employee, customer/waitstaff, etc. etc.
Ideally no one should be afraid for their lives due to rejection as being rejected is not the end of the world.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
SJW white knight thread.
I have yet in my 35 years of age see a woman get bothered by a guy at a bus stop who's asking her for her number, Facebook, sex, etc. NOT ONCE.
Shit, I have asked women at bus stops or trains but it was for directions.
Fucking anti-man propaganda everywhere in this shit age. What, are we not supposed to turn to women at all to ask for stuff and just go talk to men?
Fucking hell...
You're not to think you are anything special. You're not to think you are as good as we are. You're not to think you are smarter than we are. You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are. You're not to think you know more than we do. You're not to think you are more important than we are. You're not to think you are good at anything. You're not to laugh at us. You're not to think anyone cares about you. You're not to think you can teach us anything.
There's nothing wrong with that post. It's directed towards people who are probably not you, OP. And yes, these people do exist and I have had personal experiences with them.
Yes this does happen to women, yes many men have a "won't take no for an answer" attitude. It's not always aggressive or violent but it is pushy and you can often hear mounting agitation in a guy's voice when you turn him down. When you're forced to basically either lie or shoot down a clueless guy's hopes to his face, one who may not be stable or rational, you're bound to encounter some bad eggs.
The point of his post is that a woman walking down the street with headphones on, doing her own thing, not giving any signs that she wishes to be approached is not in the mood for your advances. You're almost always going to be turned down because we're not walking desire objects for every guy who wants a girlfriend. There's a time and place for everything and if you do that to someone at random trying to get from point A to point B then you're being a pain in the ass.
Last edited by Irian; 2019-05-13 at 09:30 PM.
Hardly. I'm just old enough to have experienced both offline and online dating (being 34, keep in mind that in my early to mid 20's social media was still a total novelty, hell there were even people in my early 20's and late teens who didn't have cellphones).
Creeps and assholes were just as abundant if not more abundant than now. I bartended in college, and holy hell have seen some epic creepy and over the top aggresive shit.
I'm not going to hold off my personal opinions on it. It's great!
Even though you know for yourself that you're not going to go mental and turn violent when your pride takes a hit, you shouldn't have to involve the girl at all in your little game. She wants nothing to do with you, so why be an annoying prick? I read today about a girl that was playing on her Switch on the airplane, with headphones on, and the guy sitting next to her, was waving to get her attention, and then started asking a lot of personal questions. I mean, where does this arrogance come from? How can people be so self-obsessed that they don't consider that the other person just wants to be left alone? Not every public space is a dating arena with girls looking for a good time, so give it a rest.
Mother pus bucket!
I agree if someone is persistent after being rejected, but he's going as far as to say to not even bother women at all.
No one should feel afraid for their lives... no one should feel ashamed to meet someone new...
We're all on this planet to fuck and make babies, everything else is just stuff to pass the time until we die. Don't let some white knight male feminist who doesn't know shit about that, tell you how to live your life.
And it works both ways, I've experienced quite a few overbearing girls who didn't get the hint after the first rejection.
Read the example given. She's wearing headphones and reading a book. This is not a person that is presenting any desire to engage in small talk, flirtation, etc. That doesn't mean you can't talk to women ever...it doesn't even mean you can't ever talk to this particular woman. In a different scenario...she might be more willing to engage with you... but at the present time...she seems to just want to be left alone.
“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
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This is exactly why it's annoying and what some guys aren't going to get.
If I'm sitting by myself, headphones on, minding my own business, not in a great mood just trying to get something done then no I don't want to be approached by you. If you insist on probing me with weirdly personal questions in an attempt to "get to know me" then we're already on a bad foot because like every other sane human being I don't want to be badgered with this kind of borderline interrogation while I'm just trying to live my life. And voicing that I'm not interested often doesn't work or at best often hurting a stranger's feelings where they didn't need to be.
Men need to understand the concept of time and place if they don't want to come off as weird. There are places to meet potential girlfriends, and airports and sidewalks are not them. Pay attention to stuff like body language and you might actually get better results.