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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity11 View Post
    Uh no... in an actual fight you focus on the least protected/most vulnerable target. Especially if you're an assassin. Killing thrall has absolutely no benefit with WAY too high of risk of it backfiring. It could've been a convenient lie spur of the moment from Saurfang. Or maybe these were rogue agents that think they're helping the banshee queen by eliminating her "competition". But I cannot imagine her actually ordering that. I think the old gods is just to split the factions so they fight among themselves so they can't fight them. I am like 90% certain that the supposed after-life Sylvanas saw was just a lie by the old gods. Those undead could've been twilight cultists. The twilight cult accepts all races into it's membership. And sending a couple of undead rogues to try and take out Thrall would exacerbate the horde's internal fracturing. IF Sylvanas wanted Thrall dead she wouldn't make a scene with assassins. She would've had some rogues poison his food or drink so it looked like natural causes. Versus stab wounds from undead made weapons. The whole thing is way too obvious and feels like a set up. But I don't think Saurfang was the one who arranged the set up.
    You go for the biggest threat first. Especially in a surprise attack. Normally someone like Saurfang should carry at least a weapon, no idea why Blizzard choose to turn this into some grudge match for some reason.

    I already pointed out that no matter how you look at it, only sending 2 mangled forsaken is a piss poor idea. Even if we talk about just killing Saurfang, actually sending one or two full squads at least would be a sound idea. Unless you use a high powered sniper rifle there is no way sending 2 melee fighters anywhere, even with lol--stealth, will actually yield decent results in a consistent fashion. All you do is gamble and make your target more wary if you fail, though I guess you could argue that Saurfang knows he is a target anyway.

    Killing Thrall does have a rather high pay-off if you do it properly. There is probably more than one person that would want the founder of the Horde back. It's not like there is any question after the nelf genocide that Sylvanas is evil. All the leaders also saw what she did with Baine and how she broke her own "codex" of giving the risen forsaken a choice. Unrestis already spreading throughout the Horde. Quelling potential fires is before they start is a somewhat wise idea. It's at least not completely indefensible when you let morals aside. The assassins certainly went for Thrall as well either way. No matter how you turn it, it's badly executed and in line with all the other non-sensical stragies we've seen ingame since BfA.

    As for poison, he is a shaman after all. He might survive that or recognize any poison that is too strong (like the shit sylvanas uses). Blizzard is also hardly known for being subtle in their writing.. the opposite actually. The only surprises Blizzard knows how to pull of is flat out ass-pulls. Expecting some convoluted set up here that makes poor sylvanas look bad seems to be more than foolish. Let's also not forget that this cinematic relyed heavily on style over substance if you remember the part about Saurfang running around unarmed. Draenor is not some happy-go-lucky amusement park, even for a veteran orc warrior. Running around unarmed is just stupid and was used to show how badass our two orcs are that they kill scrawny forsaken assassins with their bare hands.

    Again we will see what ingame events will reflect of this cinematic. Until then we can only go by what we see and know about the writers.
    Last edited by Haidaes; 2019-05-16 at 04:17 AM.

  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    You go for the biggest threat first.

    Uh... no? You kill the weakest/easiest first. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE AN ASSASSIN. You can deal with the bigger threat easier if you don't have distractions like a more minor threat.

    Edit, as for only sending 2. I can't believe it was a real assassination attempt. More like old gods making it look like one.
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  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity11 View Post
    Uh... no? You kill the weakest/easiest first. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE AN ASSASSIN. You can deal with the bigger threat easier if you don't have distractions like a more minor threat.

    Edit, as for only sending 2. I can't believe it was a real assassination attempt. More like old gods making it look like one.
    That's a tactic you use in open combat, not in assassinations. You kill the biggest thread first, preferably in one hit during your moment of surprise. Killing the weakest target first just means you have to fight the strongest opponent in open combat where you are usally at a disadvantage.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurrora View Post
    Why would they wait until he get Thrall to attack him then? Or wait until after he left since it didn't seem like Thrall was interested. Those two didn't rogue very good.
    IT depends on how far behind they were. If they just arrived when they attacked makes all the sense in the world. Once they get there they attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    IT depends on how far behind they were. If they just arrived when they attacked makes all the sense in the world. Once they get there they attack.
    If he was following them how did he get to thrall first???
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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Eh, that plays into the how would Saurfang have followed them at all.
    The cinematic clearly showed they were spotted while stealthed when they were moving through the crops. Surafang, a general, a veteran of every war teh Orcs have been in, knows a thing or two about these things, could have noticed, them moving in the tall grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity11 View Post
    If he was following them how did he get to thrall first???
    Did he? They were stealthed. They could have been there minutes before just scoping out the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity11 View Post
    Uh... no? You kill the weakest/easiest first. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE AN ASSASSIN. You can deal with the bigger threat easier if you don't have distractions like a more minor threat.

    Edit, as for only sending 2. I can't believe it was a real assassination attempt. More like old gods making it look like one.
    They guy you quoted sounds like he never played an RPG before. You always take out the fodder before going for the big guy. Those little guys will eat you up if you focus on the big threat. Hell, even in WoW, if you usually have to take out the adds before the boss, and clear the adds during add phases.

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