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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Well, the Sunwell is a potent source of arcane AND holy energy, so there is at least some reason to worship it. It would be interesting to know how the Sunwell actually came into existence.
    Dathremar Sunstrider created it with a vial of the well off eternity along with the convergence of a bunch of ley-lines.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Were the Highbourne reverent though?
    Some likely had to be, considering its place in the Kaldorei Empire, with her being the one to educate them about the Well, the Titans and Kalimdor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Can you give us some examples?

    I mean considering how fast some Kaldorei dropped Elune because of the burning, the idea that the Highborne who were never as religious to begin with would abandon the goddess over their exile seems far more likely.
    I wouldnt take the night elves losing faith after the burning of Teldrassil as any hard and fast rule that it is an easy thing, even for highborne.

    The blood elves lost faith in the light after the scourge attack, but over the years have largely restored it.

    People sometimes lose faith in difficult or catastrophic times, but usually return or find it again, youd need a much longer period of demonstrated abandoning of faith to safely reach the conclusion those might elves are permanently or actually totally lost their faith.

    Newr in mind the 1st invasion of the Legion was a far greater genocide catastrophe than the War of Thorns, and I'm sure a few lost faith, but under Tyrande, the order ended up leading the race.

    If anything the War of Thorns may spawn a faction like the demon hunters, believing in power largely to enact vengeance on evil doers who massacred their people.

    But Warcraft today is nothing like it was in wc3, we likely will hear nothing more of this. They utterly failed to give the night elves the destiny restoring and identity restoring g change the Legions final defeat alongside Illidan's vindication, Suramar's return and the curling and understanding or arcane addiction would yield... a sequence 9f events that should revitalised the night elves and restored their original destiny and mandate before it was interrupted by 'life dedicated to stopping the legion's...none of that was explored and it is a sequence of events that should totally redefine a race.. they just skipped over it all and went straight into a second genocide...as 8f the nelves hadn't been victim enough in the 1st invasion, then WC3 losses, then Cataclysm again to both the disaster and the horde and had consecutively failed to rekindle their release and lore novel calibre of excellence in game.

    Sadly there seems to be penchant for destroying elves, whether the scourge or pegion, and no effort at all to build them up or progress them positively in a way that matches their lore very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellspawn View Post
    High Elfs got rid of beliving into Elune right after they sailed over to the Eastern Kingdoms. Exposure to humans is a very recent thing, I think they belived into the sun instead of the moon, but not sure about that.
    Silvermoon is a name to honor Elune. They given up on worshipping Elune later.
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    Good question, actually. The abandonment of loa worship as the elves turned from trollhood could be an interesting thing to explore.

    Since we're going to one of the earliest elven societies next patch, how about some Archaeology items on that theme, Blizzard? We haven't got any good archaeology stuff this expansion.

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    They don't necessarily serve The Light, they still serve themselves. The Sin'dorei are beings that grasp at power and The Light being the one that saved them from certain destruction from Fel corruption and madness was the most notable event in their History, a power that truly saved them. So why wouldn't they change? They've changed to Arcane, then to Fel and then again to The Light

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    Speaking of elf religion, aren't Ancients just dark troll/night elf Loa?
    The shadowy Daughter of Urthona stood before red Orc,
    When fourteen suns had faintly journey'd o'er his dark abode:
    His food she brought in iron baskets, his drink in cups of iron:
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheImperios View Post
    Speaking of elf religion, aren't Ancients just dark troll/night elf Loa?
    They're all wild gods, as well as the August Celestials in Pandaria and they would all be considered loa by trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Elune was probably considered a Loa until the Kaldorei transitioned to full-time worship of the Moon.
    The Lun'alai are seen as weird after all
    She was never... the night elves did not know of Elune till the Well of Eternity was being studied and the titan objects and chambers they discovered, Elune, Kalimdor, are all titan names they learned.

    The night elves carry nothing from troll traditions into their new elven state. The only thing they have with trolls is the lore that states they were dark trolls transformed y the well. We dont know if this was active through a few years, or whether they fell into a deep sleep and were transformed.

    It makes sense it is the former, but we just dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Were the Highbourne reverent though?
    Some were .. as Primce Farondis' lot show and Occuleth fondly remembering the Prayers to Elune in the Temple at Falanaaer ascending. However Queen Azshara at some stage had issues with the Order, I t
    Wouldnt be surorised if she came to consider herself a rival or successor to Elune..,I wouldntbesurprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    They acknowledge Elune but never worship her.Same with Azshara.
    Altho that doesntmean much, you can believe in a deity, even worship, but not be devoted, the priest order are devoted, the druids for example are not. They may acknowledge Elune as the only true Goddess, but they are reverent to the spirit of Aessina and the demi-gods andwild gods, while the highborne and Moonguard are devoted to the arcane, the Illidari devoted to Fel

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    Well they turned away from Elune, so the light pairs with their new solar alignment. As others said before, they're closer to the Draenei in belief system but refer to the light/sun as the tauren do. I doubt they believe in an actual sun god or in the sun itself, but they do believe in the power the symbol represents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    She was never... the night elves did not know of Elune till the Well of Eternity was being studied and the titan objects and chambers they discovered, Elune, Kalimdor, are all titan names they learned.

    The night elves carry nothing from troll traditions into their new elven state. The only thing they have with trolls is the lore that states they were dark trolls transformed y the well. We dont know if this was active through a few years, or whether they fell into a deep sleep and were transformed.
    There's evidence the worship of Elune was not something done from one day to another, but there was an actual transition:
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Crumbling_...nial_Vestments


    As I said before, the Lun'alai worship something that is heavily implied to be the moon as the other trolls consider their matron to not be a loa.
    These kind of beliefs might've been the origin of the future Kaldorei in worshipping the moon and then Elune
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