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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    She should have killed Aggra. Then most of the playerbase would unite behind her.
    people like Aggra now?

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool319 View Post
    That wouldnt be bad writing. Bad writing is having assassins attack two separate targets at the same exact time when one is waffling about leaving.
    Saurfang: "hey come with me, shes ruining the horde"
    Thrall: "NO"
    Assassins in hiding: "we should attack these two insanely powerful orcs at the same time, waiting a couple minutes til one leaves the other would make things too easy."
    I mean, maybe the assassins were just retarded. They are Forsaken, maybe their brains have rotted already.

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    love nagrand music, looks amazing, but... 'i followed them'.. what?
    that line honestly ruined this amazing video, if they followed him it would been perfect, but sylvanas trying to assassinate thrall, why? sylvanas always respected thrall, why did she go full garrosh ? even garrosh make more sense being garrosh
    Don't you get it? Blizz needs to hammer it down that Sylvanas is most evil ever. I think next patch Nozdormu will come and tell us that he double checked all timelines and that our Sylvanas is the worst there ever will be in all time lines ever. And then Sargeras will start a new crusade specifically against Sylvanas this time. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool319 View Post
    That wouldnt be bad writing. Bad writing is having assassins attack two separate targets at the same exact time when one is waffling about leaving.
    Saurfang: "hey come with me, shes ruining the horde"
    Thrall: "NO"
    Assassins in hiding: "we should attack these two insanely powerful orcs at the same time, waiting a couple minutes til one leaves the other would make things too easy."
    If u agree that Saurfang was really following them, then trying to hide from him was pointless
    And i don't think he is lying, just why did Sylvanas do that in first place is what is crap writing
    The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
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    http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power

  5. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeBogina View Post
    people like Aggra now?
    Wait what? How did you read that?

    She (Sylvanas) should have killed Aggra. Then most of the playerbase would unite behind her.

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    "Hey this orc is following us, just lead him out into the field."


    Thrall comes across Saurfang's corpse in his field like a week later, "crap" he says, just as he gets sapped and hears Vendetta is popped on him. He tries to lightning laso them but he's already at 10% hp.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  7. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    Pretty tale about two traitors of which one is a cheater and a coward. Hm ultimately both are cowards. Varys Saurfang changes leaders like Arab Prince changes condoms in kindergarden. Absolutely disgusting character. Given chance he would dethrone himself because of 'muh honor'.
    Thrall actually never cheated, not sure how many times people are going to have to say this. There is no rule, absolutely no rule against magic in mak'gora. It's headcanon.

  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Techno-Druid View Post
    Thrall actually never cheated, not sure how many times people are going to have to say this. There is no rule, absolutely no rule against magic in mak'gora. It's headcanon.
    Also he is not a traitor. Going against a ruler who tries to assassinate you preemptively because you MIGHT oppose them cannot ever be conceived as treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbl3 View Post
    Don't you get it? Blizz needs to hammer it down that Sylvanas is most evil ever. I think next patch Nozdormu will come and tell us that he double checked all timelines and that our Sylvanas is the worst there ever will be in all time lines ever. And then Sargeras will start a new crusade specifically against Sylvanas this time. :P
    i'm starting to wonder what happened to the writer(s) who adore sylvanas, i mean there is a guy who (should be still?) had a photo on twitter with sylvanas waifu pillow, if he is still in writing team, how is he allowing that?
    how can sylvanas not be a raid boss after this video ?
    The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
    Thrall
    http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    i'm starting to wonder what happened to the writer(s) who adore sylvanas, i mean there is a guy who (should be still?) had a photo on twitter with sylvanas waifu pillow, if he is still in writing team, how is he allowing that?
    how can sylvanas not be a raid boss after this video ?
    Because while he is some major guy in the lore team he isn't king of it. I mean right now the storyline is so bad that a Raidboss Sylvi is the preferred outcome because in that case we all will get a nice Sylvi transmog like the bow or whatever out of her. Oh and a title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    "Hey this orc is following us, just lead him out into the field."


    Thrall comes across Saurfang's corpse in his field like a week later, "crap" he says, just as he gets sapped and hears Vendetta is popped on him. He tries to lightning laso them but he's already at 10% hp.
    I doubt 2 rogues can kill Saurfang, i'm surprised their daggers didn't break from tying to hit him
    tbh sending normal rogues against someone who has record of wiping out entire demon armies alone is stupid, another thing that Sylvanas should be very familiar with (she fought next to him in Broken Shore at least), maybe Nzoth is taking hold of her or her undead brain finally rotted ?
    The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
    Thrall
    http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power

  12. #272
    something i want to happen but wont. is after N'zoth is said and done. and the alliance is still on top (hopefully) in military might and navy. that when all and said is done and the horde is forced to surrender. I really hope that at that point the alliance goes full (Mad Queen fuck your bells)

  13. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by bowlink View Post
    I really hope that at that point the alliance goes full (Mad Queen fuck your bells)
    In a game with 2 factions that is really doubtfull. Especially since Blizz doesn't want to Alliance to do anything that can be seen as even remotely controvercial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Wait what? How did you read that?

    She (Sylvanas) should have killed Aggra. Then most of the playerbase would unite behind her.
    that's actually a great idea, yeah it doesn't make sense but screw it no price is high enough to return to Thrall x Jaina and that ascii code from Gnomeregan
    seriously i'd actually love that idea even if i know it doesn't make sense, but at least i love it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    I doubt 2 rogues can kill Saurfang, i'm surprised their daggers didn't break from tying to hit him
    tbh sending normal rogues against someone who has record of wiping out entire demon armies alone is stupid, another thing that Sylvanas should be very familiar with (she fought next to him in Broken Shore at least), maybe Nzoth is taking hold of her or her undead brain finally rotted ?
    when did Saurfang take on any demon army alone? Orcs need to sleep, undead don't. The assassins could have just tailed Saurfang or if actually was following them, waited until he was tired or simply collapsed from exhaustion. But like all things we are just supposed to forget all logic and cheer at the shiny cinematic.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  16. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    i'm starting to wonder what happened to the writer(s) who adore sylvanas, i mean there is a guy who (should be still?) had a photo on twitter with sylvanas waifu pillow, if he is still in writing team, how is he allowing that?
    how can sylvanas not be a raid boss after this video ?
    Because she will get her redemption arc somehow... Hell it could come out that nzoth has been controlling saurfang this whole time and has been working against the horde from inside and trying to tear it apart. I know it doesnt make sense, but so little of the writing has been well crafted that this is where we are at, lorecrafting the stupidest thing you can think of so when they inevitably disappoint you with the next plot twist you have tempered your expectations preemptively.

  17. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    I doubt 2 rogues can kill Saurfang, i'm surprised their daggers didn't break from tying to hit him
    tbh sending normal rogues against someone who has record of wiping out entire demon armies alone is stupid, another thing that Sylvanas should be very familiar with (she fought next to him in Broken Shore at least), maybe Nzoth is taking hold of her or her undead brain finally rotted ?
    isnt like that the dagges are used for nothing more than applying posions (2.36). but hey, classical hero immunity

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool319 View Post
    That wouldnt be bad writing. Bad writing is having assassins attack two separate targets at the same exact time when one is waffling about leaving.
    Saurfang: "hey come with me, shes ruining the horde"
    Thrall: "NO"
    Assassins in hiding: "we should attack these two insanely powerful orcs at the same time, waiting a couple minutes til one leaves the other would make things too easy."
    I don't think Thrall was really waffling here - he was reticent, but you could tell he was mulling over what Saurfang had said. Assassins are also a one-use type of tool, if they don't get the drop on their target then their chances of a successful kill are greatly reduced. Saurfang and Thrall are attacked simultaneously so that neither party can issue a warning to the other - but the assassins were outclassed and taken out. It I were Sylvanas I would've sent more than two, as well; especially for such high-value and powerful targets. But that's more a question of suspension of disbelief than it is one of quality of writing as obviously these two assassins weren't going to be able to kill either of these two main characters - nameless mooks don't generally kill faction/racial leaders.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." - The Player, "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead"

  19. #279
    So this is basically another cinematic about "SYLVANAS BAD KEY?". I'm guessing by now the fans accepted that Sylvanas is evil. In fact I'm pretty sure they were aware of that. But when one choice is Sylvanas and the other is total devotion to the Alliance some people pick Sylvanas. I guess that does not sit well with what the writers were planning for the story... which is TOTALLY NOT MoP 2.0. No way!

  20. #280
    ...So rogues have Predator-style invisibility fields, now?

    Honestly, that bit was the worst part of the cinematic, for me. ..Kinda turns rogue from a skilled, batman-like assassin, into just.. Some bloke who can snap their fingers and turn invisible. A shitty mage with a knife.

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