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    [Spoilers] Safe Haven Cinematic



    Thoughts?
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    It makes me wonder if Alliance will get one of these as well, so far we have had to settle for scraps considering Anduin talking to Saurfang in the last cinematic was the most relevant Saurfang has been to the Alliance this entire expansion.

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    Looks pretty.

    100% entirely pointless.

    Those are my thoughts. The Undead looked cool though.

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    Thrall looks like a green Mel Gibson for some reason.

    Probably the most decent Thrall lore of the last decade, he declined to lead the horde but he'll fight for it and maybe he'll die for it and redeem himself. Hopefully it gets a strong leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post


    Thoughts?
    Is this AU Draenor or Outland?

    Its stunning, as usual. I'm really curious about the intentions to kill Thrall, though. I guess Sylvanas anticipated that Thrall may become resurgent given what is happening, but given that Saurfang followed them I think there are more implications than the story we currently have can offer up. Just seems a little out of place without some level of context in-game.

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    Let me guess, Alliance players won't be given a choice and will actually be forced to help the Horde pick up their pieces once again (helping Thrall will especially be silly if you are playing a Kul Tiran).
    Remember, control demands sacrifice. Power never comes without a price. You risk losing those closest to you in order to save them. This is the bargain we have made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shampro View Post
    100% entirely pointless.
    Sylvanas going after Thrall is a new thing, because that means Sylvanas just doesn't go after people that opposed her, but also people that might oppose her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stooned View Post
    Is this AU Draenor or Outland?
    The floating rocks and Saurfangs talk about this world being "broken" is a minor hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stooned View Post
    Is this AU Draenor or Outland?

    Its stunning, as usual. I'm really curious about the intentions to kill Thrall, though. I guess Sylvanas anticipated that Thrall may become resurgent given what is happening, but given that Saurfang followed them I think there are more implications than the story we currently have can offer up. Just seems a little out of place without some level of context in-game.
    Given the floating islands, I would say Outland - AU Draenor is also off-limits now without special access and effort.

    My theory is that Sylvanas is dispatching assassins to give Saurfang no ground to go to. Thrall's an obvious candidate for Saurfang to hide with, or to rally to his side. She is likely liquidating anyone who might aid Saurfang to quell any form of dissent.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    I'm honestly not quite sure why this merited a cinematic. Nagrand does look good of course and more cinematics is never a bad thing, but this could have been a small in-game scenario. Maybe give the Alliance a cinematic that's 100% about them for a change or something.

    The salient story points are quite simple; Thrall does not want to be Warchief again but was more or less persuaded to come fight for (and, well, against because BFAlol) the Horde even before the Forsaken showed up.

    Speaking of them, Saurfang followed them? Does that mean Sylvanas really sent assassins to kill a retired Thrall of all people, or were they just anticipating Varok's movements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    I'm honestly not quite sure why this merited a cinematic. Nagrand does look good of course and more cinematics is never a bad thing, but this could have been a small in-game scenario. Maybe give the Alliance a cinematic that's 100% about them for a change or something.

    The salient story points are quite simple; Thrall does not want to be Warchief again but was more or less persuaded to come fight for (and, well, against because BFAlol) the Horde even before the Forsaken showed up.

    Speaking of them, Saurfang followed them? Does that mean Sylvanas really sent assassins to kill a retired Thrall of all people, or were they just anticipating Varok's movements?
    It would appear Sylvanas is liquidating possible sources of dissent proactively, meaning the assassins were there for Thrall and not Saurfang - at least so long as you take Saurfang at his word.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    RIP Rando Forsaken 1 and 2, you tried to save us from this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Sylvanas going after Thrall is a new thing, because that means Sylvanas just doesn't go after people that opposed her, but also people that might oppose her.
    Pretty much this. Probably she figured out if the last known position of Saurfang was the Swamp of Sorrows, he will try to cross the Dark Portal, but not to escape or hide, he will look for allies and that's Thrall, so she send assassins to get rid of him before he can join Saurfang. She doesn't want to make the same mistake Garrosh did to let their enemies work together against her.

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    Re: Draenor or Outland.

    Did you watch the cinematic? This long shot makes it very clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    It would appear Sylvanas is liquidating possible sources of dissent proactively, meaning the assassins were there for Thrall and not Saurfang - at least so long as you take Saurfang at his word.
    I strongly doubt Saurfang would spontaneously lie to one of his oldest brothers in arms and ex-Warchief. Not after they emphasis his honor sixty billion times.

    But identifying a Thrall that's farming on Outland and oblivious to the current going-ons as a potential source of dissent while more or less letting Baine get freed after imprisoning him makes no sense at all.

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    Loved the subtle hint of Thrall wearing alliance colors. Totally not MoP BTW

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    He went to another world to become farmer just like Thanos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    I strongly doubt Saurfang would spontaneously lie to one of his oldest brothers in arms and ex-Warchief. Not after they emphasis his honor sixty billion times.

    But identifying a Thrall that's farming on Outland and oblivious to the current going-ons as a potential source of dissent while more or less letting Baine get freed after imprisoning him makes no sense at all.
    Well, let's not forget that he is remerkably quick to shift blame considering he is supposed to be Honor incarnate. Just look at how quickly he rationalized Sylvanas being entirely to blame for Teldrassil despite him being the one planning the entire excursion, including having loaded Ballista at the ready.

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    Saurfang no-look snaps that fucker's neck while they're invisible. Alpha move.

    Also walking through the field of wheat really reminds me of Gladiator.
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    I have the feeling Saurfang is the biggest waste of screen time ever deployed by Blizz.
    And that's something coming from the people who gave us AU Grommash and Yrel.

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    Time to switch sides I guess.

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