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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathasil View Post
    Yes, you are totally right, of course. I mean, after Legion gave ALL of the new lore to the Horde (Nightborne) and then two books that were Horde-Centric, an entire Expansion-Narrative that is Horde-Centric and so far THREE pre-rendered Saurfang cinemtics this expansion with the combined length of a TV-Show-Eepisode...meanwhile abolsolutely JACK SHIT in the game for the Alliance or in cinematics (unless you scream "FOR THE ALLIANCE" when you see Anduin cry, of course)......i agree with you 100% that the story of BFA so far is so INCREDIBLY AWESOME that it was worth it to forget about one of two playable factions in this game.

    They could have NEVER, not in 1000 years, made BFA so awe-inspiring great storywise had they put even an ounce less emphasis on the Horde.
    1. Nightborne are not "ALL of the new lore" of Legion by any stretch of imagination.
    2. There was only one book after Legion and most of its chapters are from Anduin's perspective.
    3. The idea that the entire narrative of BfA is Horde centric has nothing to stand on.
    4. Second cinematic is more about Anduin than it is about Saurfang. The three cinematics combined maybe scratch the run time of a sitcom episode at best. Saurfang cinematics aren't Horde cinematics anyway, because Saurfang betrayed the Horde, abandoned his role as racial leader of the Orcs and shat on everything Orcs stand for when he let Anduin capture him (and then shat on it some more when he refused to be freed by Rokhan).

    Less fantasies please. You won't prove your conspiracy theory of HORDE BIAS to be real if you pull additional books out of the nether.


    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Don't worry, some idiot will chime in with BUt WaRLorDZ wAs AlL AboUt hORdE OmfG, just because there were a lot of Orcs.
    Are you telling me there are Orcs that aren't Horde? Does not... compute...
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
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    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

  2. #82
    Sucks to be someone who doesn't realize horde story still furthers the entire game's storyline.

    Horde leads the story...This has been the case since WC3, where the first thing you play is the Exodus of the Horde and are forced to have to play every faction's story.
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    do i wanting my cat come the expansion due to signifying a reroll fresh scratch the night elf mage?

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Nize View Post
    To be fair, Orcs in the game are delegated to cannon fodder, so I look at these cinematics as their way of telling the orc storyline of BfA. Humans are heavily focused in the game. And cinematics won't save Night Elf storytelling.
    Tbh the only way to save Night Elf storytelling is for it to stop. Whenever Blizzard writes something for them they manage to kick that race some more. At least when they are ignored things won't keep getting worse.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    I wanna see some Greymane cinematics. His Worgen form is fucking FIRE. Like god damn, everything about him looks badass.
    His cinematic (and in-game) Worgen form lacks the tail though. That he totally always had because it's obviously not something Golden pulled out of her ass due to not paying attention. So, in other words, that's not really Genn. As such it's impossible to say whether actual Genn's Worgen form is awesome or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    I wish we got a cinematic focusing on Gelbin's situation. A gnome in a cinematic. Can you guys imagine it? The barbarity!
    A Gnome in a cinematic like that (i.e. one that doesn't use in-game models) would be an uncanny valley abomination to be honest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Do you think they build out the entire Stormwind Harbor for just a few seconds of background visuals in the Lost Honor cinematic? No way they did all that , there's going to be a Stormwind cinematic later for sure. Also all that work on Genn's model for just a few lines... no way.

    There's a whole year left for BFA, first half is probably the Horde dealing with issues, second half... coming soon will deal with Alliance issues. I suspect Anduin / Genn / Jaina / Tyrande.
    A bit late, but that makes no sense at all.

    They've built a lot of landscapes just to use them for one cinematic.
    Don't think we'll see another one based around Nagrand, or Undercity.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    A bit late, but that makes no sense at all.

    They've built a lot of landscapes just to use them for one cinematic.
    Don't think we'll see another one based around Nagrand, or Undercity.
    Nagrand was a simple background, probably a 2D matte painting and Undercity was the setting for the entire main BFA cinematic. Now look at 'Lost Honor'... look at the detail there. They could easily just have focused on Anduin and Genn's faces during the dialogue and saved a ton of work, it wasn't shown anywhere else.

    Makes a lot of sense.

  6. #86
    Well Horde has this whole Warchief going genocidal splitting the faction in two and going after dissidents who gather to overthrow stop the madness... AGAIN.

    So just let them have it, while we wear our smug smiles looking at the pleb Horde trying to kill each other from the top of our shining towers.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Nagrand was a simple background, probably a 2D matte painting and Undercity was the setting for the entire main BFA cinematic. Now look at 'Lost Honor'... look at the detail there. They could easily just have focused on Anduin and Genn's faces during the dialogue and saved a ton of work, it wasn't shown anywhere else.

    Makes a lot of sense.
    Because they can't quite just copy and paste the same scene to reuse it.

    And did you want a cutscene that goes "we lost so much" without showing a single loss?

  8. #88
    How about the Alliance become an interesting faction first? It's been 14 years. Better late than never. Get to it.

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    His cinematic (and in-game) Worgen form lacks the tail though. That he totally always had because it's obviously not something Golden pulled out of her ass due to not paying attention. So, in other words, that's not really Genn. As such it's impossible to say whether actual Genn's Worgen form is awesome or not.
    I know you're ragging on her, but she did admit she was wrong. And her editor didn't catch it either.

    That said, Worgen should definitely have tails as a customization option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLOCKWERK View Post
    How about the Alliance become an interesting faction first? It's been 14 years. Better late than never. Get to it.
    What's your avatar from? That's some cool as heck pixel art.

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    I've done my fair share of babysitting, so I know a tantrum when I see one. I'd suggest taking a nap, always works with my clients.
    Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.

  11. #91
    would love to see other characters in these cinematics. Jaina or even Tyrande and Malfurion.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    What's your avatar from? That's some cool as heck pixel art.
    It's from DOTA 2.
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

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    @Mehrunes Right you are! Thank you kindly.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Well Horde has this whole Warchief going genocidal splitting the faction in two and going after dissidents who gather to overthrow stop the madness... AGAIN.

    So just let them have it, while we wear our smug smiles looking at the pleb Horde trying to kill each other from the top of our shining towers.
    I'm not really sure what's there to be smug about when the Alliance can't defeat the Horde even under those circumstances.
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    What's your avatar from? That's some cool as heck pixel art.
    Clockwerk from Dota 2. One of my favorite heroes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    It's from DOTA 2.
    You wizard, you.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    Do you need to revisit Ashran to realize that Horde was already starting shit back then? *Just* after losing a supposedly crippling civil war.
    When you have one case of Horde starting shit and half a dozen cases of Alliance doing that, the litany about "Horde will be back to starting shit in an instant" has little to stand on.


    Quote Originally Posted by KLOCKWERK View Post
    You wizard, you.
    I must admit, I completely didn't notice your user name is a reference to that character as well. Took me a minute to figure out the avatar because of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaddon View Post
    We've (The Horde) got two, you got one.
    Relax.

    You're acting like we've got five in a row or soemthing

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    Anduin, Greymane, Saurfang. If you're going to make a post atleast know your stuff.
    When even the thumbnail is Saurfang in that so called Alliance cinematic, yiiiiikes. Full Alliance amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLOCKWERK View Post
    How about the Alliance become an interesting faction first? It's been 14 years. Better late than never. Get to it.
    Way more interesting than zug zug kill kill we are not bad we good + 2 genocide Warchief plots.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Amaterasu65 View Post
    Way more interesting than zug zug kill kill we are not bad we good + 2 genocide Warchief plots.
    Every cinematic we have gotten so far would indicate otherwise.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevrex View Post
    would love to see other characters in these cinematics. Jaina or even Tyrande and Malfurion.
    The devs hate nelves, especially Tyrande, with a passion. They didn't even bother to put her boss character model into the Night Warrior scenario, that's how much they despise her. Instead they took a player model and slapped <Tyrande Whisperwind> on it.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amaterasu65 View Post
    When even the thumbnail is Saurfang in that so called Alliance cinematic, yiiiiikes. Full Alliance amirite?
    The title is about Saurfang.
    The thumbnail is Saurfang.

    The major plot of the cinematic is to explain Saurfang's actions.

    I mean, if they want to argue Saurfang isn't Horde, that's another debate all together.

    But whether or not Saurfang is Horde or not, it's still a Saurfang cinematic.

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