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  1. #341
    It doesn't matter if the game is perfectly the original version of vanilla. Its the best mmo we've got out right now and nothing else like it has come out since 2004.

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    Well, before Classic came to be people had been trying to make PS Blizzlike, there's a lot of guesswork involved, now people are used to those PS numbers, but now some want Classic to become PS-like :P It's inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurthos View Post
    It doesn't matter if the game is perfectly the original version of vanilla. Its the best mmo we've got out right now and nothing else like it has come out since 2004.
    This is what we call an opinion. For me FFXIV is a better game than both retail and Classic WoW but i know what i am saying is an opinion and saying nothing else like it has come out since 2004 is a extremely biased statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls- View Post
    Well, before Classic came to be people had been trying to make PS Blizzlike, there's a lot of guesswork involved, now people are used to those PS numbers, but now some want Classic to become PS-like :P It's inevitable.

    Can we stop giving any credence to streamers who've played on private servers. If they even played vanilla wow on release their memories and experience has been completely tainted. Anyone on here referencing private servers to make a point are just as tainted.
    Classic might not be a 100% perfect recreation of vanilla wow but it will be the most accurate possible experience of what it was like. Stop cry-arsing because its not perfect or you don't perfectly remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    pulled 5 in a row not 5 at once
    running sheild
    same level as wolves
    did get below 50% health, he got down to 22/185
    had priest health buff

    so y6eah perfectly normal.
    Okay, I was not the one that complained in the first place. I just provided the footage that someone asked for. Yeez stop draging me in to this shit show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crillam View Post
    Okay, I was not the one that complained in the first place. I just provided the footage that someone asked for. Yeez stop draging me in to this shit show.
    nor did i, just put it there in hopes i could find the person to quote so they could see it as well but i couldnt find them.
    nvm i found them in 2 seconds, i am some kind of stupid, like most of the time. nor did i ever say something like "see you were wrong" just pointing out in the response why the video was fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    I even saw Asmongold chain pull like 4 or 5 wolves in Elwynn Forest and they didn't take him below 50%. You couldn't even do that in TBC which is when i started playing. I remember pulling 2 mobs would almost kill you, pulling 3 was gg.
    https://youtu.be/zD04o8fH0Cg?t=3854

    pulled 5 in a row not 5 at once
    running shield
    same level as wolves
    did get below 50% health, he got down to 22/185
    had priest health buff

    so yeah perfectly normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voxnor View Post
    Honestly, these comments are inevitable.

    I was watching some streams just now and I gotta say - I think this might flop. Now hold on before you jump on my throat.

    I am anxious to try classic - really I am. I was there back in 2004. But watching these streams... watching a druid cast Wrath and use 1/3 of their Mana. Watching casters literally have to swing staves in auto attack.

    I realize some of that goes away with level - not not for a loooonnggg time in classic. I guess that's what people want - but watching it again in stream... yea I Am not as excited as I was. *shrug*
    If it flops, I very much doubt it'll be because of that. Often, and not just in gaming, you become a hell of a lot more attached to things that caused you effort and pain to achieve.

    That's one of the many reasons I don't really feel very attached to my characters on live servers, because there's no blood sweat and tears required to get them levelled and geared anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elias01 View Post
    I dont want sound harsh but rose tinted glasses argument was made as counter argument if game will be fun. Not as if numbers what people rember are correct. So quit using it. Despites what all others says classic is ton of fun and rose tinted glasses argument got shattered.
    I... have a feeling you're playing the overly defensive card and didn't read my comment correctly. For, as I stated, I have a feeling some of the comments are skewered as their experience back then might, and will, most likely be translated different now. So, once people claim something seeming off yet others claim it doesn't seem off, one can start pondering.
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  9. #349
    People didn't have families or full time job back then, now everyone is grown up so it's unlikely to get 40 man.

  10. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Hurray!!! Grats!!!! Whooohooo!!!
    Not bragging, just pointing out that it's not only streamers that get alpha and early closed beta acess like many here claim.

  11. #351
    Just wait until they notice that the time requirement is too high for Classic compared to what they have available now.

  12. #352
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    People didn't have families or full time job back then, now everyone is grown up so it's unlikely to get 40 man.
    Families and jobs were invented after 2005? That's an odd take. I raided in classic and had both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voxnor View Post
    Honestly, these comments are inevitable.

    I was watching some streams just now and I gotta say - I think this might flop. Now hold on before you jump on my throat.

    I am anxious to try classic - really I am. I was there back in 2004. But watching these streams... watching a druid cast Wrath and use 1/3 of their Mana. Watching casters literally have to swing staves in auto attack.

    I realize some of that goes away with level - not not for a loooonnggg time in classic. I guess that's what people want - but watching it again in stream... yea I Am not as excited as I was. *shrug*
    Yea I thought about playing classic. What should I play - maybe hunter? Stocking arrows upon arrows upon arrows, feeding your pet, taming pets to learn new friggin skills for your pet, having that one pet skin, because it has faster attack speed. Jesus, what a shitty mmorpg. Or warlock - farm shards, talent into corruption to remove casting time, but now that little haste "scaling" is gone, because dots don't scale with haste. Also don't scale with crit. Like... why dots didn't tick faster with haste? Why was it so ground breaking to make them tick faster with haste, looking at other mmorpgs too. Dark ages.

    Vanilla was crap, and so was tbc.
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  14. #354
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjay View Post
    No, it doesn't and it shouldn't. Rule of thumb: Don't assert subjective opinions as facts. Folks like different things, it's a fact. People've been ripping on retail ever since BC. Shit got trite and banal AGES AGO. You should focus your energy on being glad that you're getting to experience World of Warcraft as it was in the beginning.
    Opinions on subjective topics are facts to the individual.

    Spinach sucks. While I know other people like it... I hate it. A globally factual statement is "I don't like spinach." A personal fact is that I think Spinach sucks. And if I think it, then it does in fact, suck... to ME!

    I did not play Vanilla. But i did play TBC. I have also played a lot of PServers with fairly close approximation of Vanilla.

    Classic offers the type of gameplay mechanics I prefer. And having played most of WoW since, I can tell you that they have slowly "evolved" away from those things.

    Just watching streamers play Classic Beta, I have watched hours of them just low leveling. I like how if you pull 2 mobs, you have to use more abilities or die. I like how you have to be careful of pats catching you while in combat and handing you a ticket to the graveyard.

    I like how you have to think about your mana, because if you're low and pull ONE mob you will die. I like how you will use wands sometimes in order to allow your mana to regen.

    My focus IS on being grateful we have Classic at all... And since this thread is abotu people complaining it's not "Classic" and I was simply stating that Blizzard can go to a reference server and change those things that are egregious.

    You're the one that tried to tell me I have no right to an opinion because I didn't play Vanilla. And I have a right to an opinion regardless of whether you give it weight.

  15. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by ldev View Post
    Yea I thought about playing classic. What should I play - maybe hunter? Stocking arrows upon arrows upon arrows, feeding your pet, taming pets to learn new friggin skills for your pet, having that one pet skin, because it has faster attack speed. Jesus, what a shitty mmorpg. Or warlock - farm shards, talent into corruption to remove casting time, but now that little haste "scaling" is gone, because dots don't scale with haste. Also don't scale with crit. Like... why dots didn't tick faster with haste? Why was it so ground breaking to make them tick faster with haste, looking at other mmorpgs too. Dark ages.

    Vanilla was crap, and so was tbc.
    I think you kinda miss the point, it's meant to be an RPG where character maintenance and upkeep is part of the game. Modern WoW has streamlined everything and iterated on the combat to create a more polished and developed experience but they ironed out all the creases and really turned it more into an action game, with less of the RPG elements. The old game was also slower, more obstacles in a players path, more friction and the modern game has pretty much none of that at all, again a very different experience.

    Vanilla and TBC were and are awesome games, they might as well be different games to modern WoW though, it's silly to even compare them as if they are the same game. I also see it a bit like old music vs modern music, new music has ironed out all the rough edges, it's recorded to a click track and quantized so it's absolutely perfectly in time, it's compressed to the balls so it's loud and sounds decent on any system, but people still often prefer older recordings, the rough edges are part of the charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogait View Post
    Ele Shaman at level 6. I know it'll be different after level 10/15 but I think it is kinda high. Even Cdew is pointing that out.
    ....Are people really complaining about the balance of regen at lvl 6? O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    I played a warrior on live vanilla and shamans speed a lot of time meleeing while leveling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJ78qfgrK4&t=1076s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nëgï View Post
    Whoa there, someone needs to calm down. My post was obviously on the joke side and is poking fun at the person from the OP post who claimed aggro was off. No need to get your undies in a twist lad.
    No it wasn't. Being proven wrong is no excuse for your post. If you are wrong just accept it. Don't come up with some bullshit excuse about sarcasm, especially when it is in undetectable text format. Or maybe just broadcast you are a of the tidepool eating generation. Whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

  18. #358
    Took a peak on some twitch streams, didn't see anything off place except for some bugs that are bound to be corrected, and the game looks super fluid. What are ppl really complaining about again?

  19. #359
    If Blizzard released the original Vanilla and said it was "Classic"... there would still be people saying it's not how it used to be.

    People complain just to complain.

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