I never understood why they time gate pathfinder. They use the excuse for pathfinder that they want people to explore and experience the world and flying from A to B ruins that. Right, ok fair point but that's the point of pathfinder. Once you've unlocked it, you've explored everywhere, you've done all the main quests, you've probably done a bunch of world quests to meet the rep requirements. So why is there now a long wait for part two?
Let people earn pathfinder at their own pace, they still have to do all the content required to unlock the achievement but once they have, flying should be unlocked immediately. I personally have only just returned to the game after a long break because honestly, traversing the world to do world quests I've already done a bunch of times is tedious as hell. Not saying flying is the fix for that tediousness but it would go a long way in relieving it if I didn't have to faff around running through areas and mobs I've seen a thousand times already.
Nope. I read. Flying kill content. Kill the world. Kill any sense of immersion. And you want that just to mine in an easier way so you could be max level in mining without having to interact with or progress in the world.
Your next complaint might be that some mobs are to close from nodes wich destroy your self weird sense of accomplishment.
World content is not boring at first while he is relevant. And he is relevant for longer than "I just dang x level". It would have been ok with the opening of the last raid.
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And when did that majority of player expressed the desire to get toys, mounts, pets, transmog and achivement without having to do anything? That's what you want. You want to go from point A to point B without any form of obstacle, to click on something and get your reward.
Your signature is a joke right?
I'm now convinced you are trolling because you can not be this obtuse. You said I wanted a collection game and WoW was not that... I provided examples that WoW was indeed a collection game. Then you are telling me what I want... which is nothing at all like what I have said. You then go on to say that Flying kills content. Random mobs that drop nothing of value is not content... it is a time sink. In a world with magic and mole machines and teleportation you really believe that flying is what kills immersion? Please stop trolling.
EDIT: My signature exist because not everyone's opinion is equally valid. True democracy helps no one.
It can accomplish both. I don't see why it having the added benefit of reducing on-launch bugginess is supposed to be a bad thing.
Not your signature. The other guy's. And I always talked about a click and collect game.
And the "random mobs that drop nothing part". My god. That's painfull. You can say that about basically anything on any game that is not the main objective. That's completely ridiculous. "Durdur there is to many enemies between me and the end of that level, it's just to slow me down durdur."
Last edited by Tarba; 2019-05-17 at 06:14 PM.
Blizzard never wanted flying in WoD and when they finally admitted it after months of saying maybe.(they also said no more flying for any future expansions) there was massive backlash and sub loss to the point that the unsub page crashed. Also GM had to police the un-sub page.
pathfinder came from that. "do everything on the ground and then you get flying."
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I may be a little late to the party, but there's nothing at all wrong with criticizing or complaining without offering potential solutions. It isn't the consumer's role to come up with solutions, it's their role to identify what they do and don't like.
Demanding that any criticism come with prepackaged solutions is just a way of needlessly gating off a meaningful discussion, or shouting down opinions you don't agree with.
https://gamerant.com/world-of-warcra...lords-draenor/
Announced WoD. No plan to add flying, but they might reevaluate later. Still no plan to add flying, maybe even to next expansion, then people mad and they add.
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Do you have any source for " the unsub page crashed and blizz had to police the unsub page"
Cause this is the first time ever I have heard this, and this is the most outlandish claim ever as people just unsubbing would not cause something to crash.
Nope. They weren't going to allow flight because the developers believe the game is better without it. And they still do, we forced them to allow it by putting guns to their heads.
Don't remember the unsub website crashing. I do recall they added a questionnaire though, and one of the options for why you were quitting was flight. I quit over no flying ever myself.
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You misremember. There were people complaining about how it would be bad back prior to TBC when it was announced.
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I agree with this. Make everyone do it on the ground, even get the rep too, then you unlock it. If they add a new area they can restrict flying in that area if they want until requirements are met.
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Just some Blizzard hate boner head canon. WoD went up to 10M subs. If players were unsubbing like mad, it never would have had 10M at launch.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but this isn't true. In every expansion people have complained about flying.
They changed flying in WoD, but they also completely broke the in-game economy the same expansion by adopting F2P-style business practices. Not having flying off the bat gives people the chance to have to play around each other, but I agree for a different reason. I was so slow about doing pathfinder that I never ended up getting flying.
See, and what's funny about this is that people wanted it like that - so many people complained about flying that Blizz tried to comply, even though technically there was a divide of people that did and did not want it. But then everyone started complaining about not having flying, even the people that didn't want it, so Blizz relented again.
I've seen people sometimes mention how Blizz is detached from the fans and what they want. Well, sometimes the fans don't know what they want.
Are you kidding me? Having mats all over the place didn't effect everything, but the WoW token immediately shot up the prices of everything to insane levels, so that anyone not making gold from the WoW token struggled to buy anything.
Edit: The prices were stable in WoD before the token was introduced.
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The WoD garrison only gave mats for WoD. Earlier items were completely uneffected by the Garrison, so prices for mats needed for earlier levels of professions remained the same (especially if you wanted to level profs before you hit level 90). The prices for WoD items were cheap because everyone had them, but people sometimes would still buy if they needed more than they had and didn't want to wait. It wasn't great, but it was still functional. When the tokens came out, the price of everything inflated to the point that nothing was affordable anymore if you were simply making gold via in-game methods. This effected everything, and not just certain aspects. The amount of gold everyone had from selling WoW tokens made people raise prices so high that playing the game the way it was supposed to be played made it impossible to buy even practical things like mats for profs. What would have been 300g prior ended up being 10k g, or more, after tokens were introduced. You literally had to pay real money to get a WoW token and sell it to get enough gold to be able to afford anything.
Pathfinder is here because it increases time played metrics. That's the only reason.
To the "anit-flyers" don't use your flying mounts, problem solved.