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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I mean some of these make sense to report as bugs. Like the literal "Questgivers with multiple quests inconcsistently are marked with a ! or a dot" bug Blizz refuses to fix for authenticity, despite also caving on inconsistency elsewhere (hellooooo Wrath water).

    Or who the hell would remember Tauren used to have a giant hitbox?
    This is my gripe with the first few waves of the Beta. For the most part it's just people who will get numbers on YouTube and Twitch to drive interest. Not actual Vanilla players that can report on actual bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    "Warrior health Regeneration is working at the expected rate."

    Hilarious. I also love the ones where they're passive aggressively calling out BFA players.
    They're actually passive aggressively calling out any wow player who thinks the spawn rate was off - whether it be BFA players or classic players who had forgotten the classic spawn rate and were used to a quicker one from some point in the games life-span, bfa or before.

    I think this list is really passive aggressively calling out classic players too - its pretty "you think you want it, but you don't" in it's handling. As in, this shit isn't the way you remember it - shocker, no one saw that coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynestra View Post
    They're actually passive aggressively calling out any wow player who thinks the spawn rate was off - whether it be BFA players or classic players who had forgotten the classic spawn rate and were used to a quicker one from some point in the games life-span, bfa or before.

    I think this list is really passive aggressively calling out classic players too - its pretty "you think you want it, but you don't" in it's handling. As in, this shit isn't the way you remember it - shocker, no one saw that coming.
    Its NEITHER of those things you fruit loops lol. Blizzard knows that the vast majority of people playing on beta are private server kids that either never played vanilla or were 10 at the time. This is great for advertising the game because many of them are entertaining streamers on twitch, but it is not great for testing because most of the bugs they are reporting are clearly not.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Or who the hell would remember Tauren used to have a giant hitbox?
    Anyone that remembers Tauren getting stuck trying to get to the window to zone into MC.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Its NEITHER of those things you fruit loops lol. Blizzard knows that the vast majority of people playing on beta are private server kids that either never played vanilla or were 10 at the time. This is great for advertising the game because many of them are entertaining streamers on twitch, but it is not great for testing because most of the bugs they are reporting are clearly not.
    Even if alot of the bugs reported aren't bugs, there will still be some that will be found even by private server players, and that's the point blizzard have the 1.12 client working and they can test whatever is reported to check.

    And honestly, some of the most obscure bugs found are by some private server tryhard that test every single little thing, for example perplexity stream all his testing. He found out for example that rogue can on the beta use mouseover macro to use any ability on a target without targeting it to keep all the combo point on the main target (when you target something else you are supposed to lose all your combo point on your previous target but mouseover macro allow to bypass that and can make rogue broken) this isnt the kind of thing normal players can find.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by collax View Post
    Even if alot of the bugs reported aren't bugs, there will still be some that will be found even by private server players, and that's the point blizzard have the 1.12 client working and they can test whatever is reported to check.

    And honestly, some of the most obscure bugs found are by some private server tryhard that test every single little thing, for example perplexity stream all his testing. He found out for example that rogue can on the beta use mouseover macro to use any ability on a target without targeting it to keep all the combo point on the main target (when you target something else you are supposed to lose all your combo point on your previous target but mouseover macro allow to bypass that and can make rogue broken) this isnt the kind of thing normal players can find.
    I fully get that, but it would be much better for the progress of the beta to get actual vanilla boys in there.....especially ones with no private server experience. All of my memories from vanilla WoW come from actual vanilla WoW, i have no memory of how private servers do things so my feedback would be especially helpful. I am no snowflake there are lots of people out there like myself, blizz just needs to find these people (maybe check overall played time or something?) and get them onto the beta.

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    Remember, the goal of the beta is the get the "authentic" 2006 experience that blizzard has used as their framework since the beginning of the project. Getting people in from actual vanilla is how you do this. One thing just off the top of my head i want to check is, can you duel in ironforge? In 2006 (and part of tbc) you could start duels behind the right pillar outside of the bank in IF. It would zone you to dun morough so the duel could be initiated, there was also a place in the military ward (by the stairs i believe) where you could do the same thing.

    Its stuff like that that is going to make or break the authentic experience blizzard wants, and private server guys alone cannot find this stuff.

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    Hardly, then they would invite more people or even people that did not pay for a sub.

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    You do not need an extremely large number of people to begin stress testing. There is a reason there are level caps, and restrictions on where people can go. To concentrate more players in fewer locations. Why? Stress testing. You do not start off inviting too many players until you see how the testing goes. Then you ramp up the number of players gradually.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I also love the ones where they're passive aggressively calling out BFA players.
    Same. It makes me smile.
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  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Beet View Post
    Yeah I mean wait until they see raids dude. Because I was on one of those realms we can’t speak of awhile back. BWL was cleared the moment it was released and I asked them how they did it without FR and then I saw videos. They did Razorgore without kiting a single add. They had the damage to kill everything. That didn’t even happen with Naxx gear in classic so I thought something was odd about that. Then on Vael, not only did they not get the FR buff but they didn’t wear FR gear at all. Not even on their tanks. Then not only that, they killed Vael quicker than my Naxx top 100 world guild did. Their warriors somehow didn’t get aggro despite not having salvation and spamming heroic strike. Anyone who played then knows a warrior can’t go all out on that fight due to aggro.

    So I finally come to find out that the reason for this is because the guys who made it didn’t have the correct numbers for anything. No resist numbers. No threat thresholds. I mean shit I knew the players would be better than they were back then but nothing added up for how they did what they did. Not until I found that out anyways.

    We’re gonna see threads popping up about how Ragnaros is broken because they’ll pull him expecting that their tank with greens will be fine. Like how poor Tips thought Verdan was bugged because he killed him. He like many others will be in for a big surprise.
    You're completely delusional and clearly have zero experience with top guilds on priv servers.
    Every single raid (except MC and Ony) will be fully cleared on day 1 of its release.
    Yes NA will have every single world 1st
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    yeah all good... except...


    "NPCs which offer multiple quests may inconsistently display them as a dot or a “!” on the available quests list. They were inconsistent in 1.12, and we’ve reproduced the exact inconsistency they had back then."

    So they plan on leaving in BUGS?? Are they insane? or retarded? or both? /facepalm


    "On level up, the message: “Your skill in Protection increased to 15” was added in 1.12.1, and we’re intending to keep that."

    WTH is that even? I dont remember this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    yeah all good... except...


    "NPCs which offer multiple quests may inconsistently display them as a dot or a “!” on the available quests list. They were inconsistent in 1.12, and we’ve reproduced the exact inconsistency they had back then."

    So they plan on leaving in BUGS?? Are they insane? or retarded? or both? /facepalm


    "On level up, the message: “Your skill in Protection increased to 15” was added in 1.12.1, and we’re intending to keep that."

    WTH is that even? I dont remember this.
    Of course they would leave in non game breaking bugs, its a retro game.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Of course they would leave in non game breaking bugs, its a retro game.
    They leave in bugs but keep the modern raid frames, isn't that hippocritical?

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    I must say, that i tried Blizzcon Demo of WoW Classic. And it felt great - finally a game that doesnt feel too easy, compared to retail WoW (BFA).

  14. #134
    man, i can't believe people accept this garbage as a game. "here's some bullshit we aren't going to fix for lulz! it'll make your 'member berries coo!"

    fuck that, keep it boys.

    see you back in retail by october.

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    Same. It makes me smile.
    grrr those baby BfA players! we'll show them what game is best

    sounds dumb, bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I mean some of these make sense to report as bugs. Like the literal "Questgivers with multiple quests inconcsistently are marked with a ! or a dot" bug Blizz refuses to fix for authenticity, despite also caving on inconsistency elsewhere (hellooooo Wrath water).

    Or who the hell would remember Tauren used to have a giant hitbox?
    With that bit Blizzard's attitude feels like "You wanted this shit, you're getting this shit". Which I'm okay with.
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  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by AceofH View Post
    see i think a huge chunk of the problem is how they are handling the beta.
    for the first time that i can remember blizzard is requiring an active subscription in order to actually beta test classic wow.
    this means that those who have been subbed to modern wow were probably the first up to be selected and it really leaves a foul taste in my mouth because blizzard is just cash grabbing at this point with it.
    Yea. 90% of beta spots atm seem to be for streamers which is ok. The subscription requirement though is bonkers. 50% of the spots should be for people that had a sub back then and the rest for current subscribers.

    They're hoping people start subscribing in droves in order to get an invite, which is probably working in Blizzard's favor lol

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Yea. 90% of beta spots atm seem to be for streamers which is ok. The subscription requirement though is bonkers. 50% of the spots should be for people that had a sub back then and the rest for current subscribers.

    They're hoping people start subscribing in droves in order to get an invite, which is probably working in Blizzard's favor lol
    i understood it was a cash grab when i saw
    1) sub required for beta (never required this before).
    2) sub two weeks before game comes out to "pre save names" (seriously?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceofH View Post
    see i think a huge chunk of the problem is how they are handling the beta.
    for the first time that i can remember blizzard is requiring an active subscription in order to actually beta test classic wow.
    this means that those who have been subbed to modern wow were probably the first up to be selected and it really leaves a foul taste in my mouth because blizzard is just cash grabbing at this point with it.
    While we didn't get in with the streamer crowd, my wife and I both had our subs start on 11/23/2004 and we both got in to beta. My son didn't get in, nor did my friends who claimed to have played vanilla got in. We do have active subs though I think it's fair for those who still like the game of wow.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Erous View Post
    I actually don't think that's the case at all. While we didn't get in with the streamer crowd, my wife and I both had our subs start on 11/23/2004 and we both got in to beta. My son didn't get in, nor did my friends who claimed to have played vanilla got in.
    they are clearly cash grabbing at this point.
    why else require a sub to get beta?
    why else do the two weeks early name reservations?

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by AceofH View Post
    they are clearly cash grabbing at this point.
    why else require a sub to get beta?
    why else do the two weeks early name reservations?
    You dont need sub for name reservatiom and sub fee is there so filter out inactive accounts. Kinda waste give ivites to dead accs when you have no idea idlf that person even touches blizzard app.

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