Ion Hazzikostas responds to in-game shop in Classic

[Lochton]

THey said there wont be a pet/mount shop specifically, sot it means other services including token will be implemented sure as hell.

Token most likely not.

[Soon-TM]

Yes to server transfer, not to race change, especially if you can change your name while you are at it. Or you will have credit card warriors ninjaing loot and getting away with it, since community won't be able to do shit.

[Pounder]

How much will the flying mounts cost in the shop?

[Dekkers]

I wouldn't mind race changes honestly.
Nice to be able to switch things up.

[White Goodman1]

Indeed. Just pay to get your way.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Token most likely not.

Nobody on Classic could afford a token anyway.

[Lochton]

Nobody on Classic could afford a token anyway.

Indeed not. Hehe.

[lollerlaban]

THey said there wont be a pet/mount shop specifically, sot it means other services including token will be implemented sure as hell.

Try and read what he actually said instead of claiming something else.

[Kyanion]

It kinda does... if your a bastard being able to get a fresh start without rolling back from level 1 isnt something that existed in classic and this change actively harms the communities ability to black list problem players.

Considering that before paid server transfers there were overpopulated transfers that let douchebags escape to other realms, what does it matter? Some of the 'blacklisted' people would make a level 1 on the realm they were going to and made the same name as their current character and then take the free server transfer and change their name. Poof, blacklisted be gone. Later on in Vanilla there were paid escapes and it was another way for people to continue to escape blacklists.

So you are totally wrong, there were FREE ways to escape blacklists and later on in Vanilla (guess what this is a 1.12 realm) to pay to leave your realm.

[MoanaLisa]

THey said there wont be a pet/mount shop specifically, sot it means other services including token will be implemented sure as hell.

Even with their idea about pristine servers they specifically said that tokens would not be a part of it. Believe what you like, there's not been anything to suggest that tokens are going to be available within Classic. If you want a token, play the other game and get them.

[Powerogue]

I have no doubt players will eventually demand server transfers in particular as certain servers swell or die down in popularity.

[Triggered Fridgekin]

i have no doubt players will eventually demand server transfers in particular as certain servers swell or die down in popularity.

blackrock is full, gtfo!

[Has lost its way]

Considering that before paid server transfers there were overpopulated transfers that let douchebags escape to other realms, what does it matter? Some of the 'blacklisted' people would make a level 1 on the realm they were going to and made the same name as their current character and then take the free server transfer and change their name. Poof, blacklisted be gone. Later on in Vanilla there were paid escapes and it was another way for people to continue to escape blacklists.

So you are totally wrong, there were FREE ways to escape blacklists and later on in Vanilla (guess what this is a 1.12 realm) to pay to leave your realm.

Being sentenced to a dead realm isn't much of a free fresh start.

[Kyanion]

Being sentenced to a dead realm isn't much of a free fresh start.

Is it or is not an escape for people that were blacklisted? And not all of the transfers were garbage though some of them were to dead realms that stayed quite dead. I was just happy to avoid a 1,000+ queue every night.

[Has lost its way]

Is it or is not an escape for people that were blacklisted? And not all of the transfers were garbage though some of them were to dead realms that stayed quite dead. I was just happy to avoid a 1,000+ queue every night.

Assuming they were trying to raid it would be a end of progression move...

[RobertMugabe]

He might've misspoken that.

But tbh I don't care if they add race changes or whatever. I don't see how this would have any negative effect on the experience.

[MikeBogina]

I have no doubt players will eventually demand server transfers in particular as certain servers swell or die down in popularity.

didn't they say there was going to be sharding, or was that only for the first couple months?

[Thetruth1400]

I'm fine with a lot of these quality of life changes.

Classic was a time when you were your character. You lived and died by your reputation, and a negative reputation would get you just as ignored as a positive reputation would almost guarantee a net positive when looking for groups.

To have the ability to pay to get away from your reputation was a big step down towards the anonymity / non-community of this game. It was a step in which you were no longer held accountable by your actions; you just paid Blizzard a few dollars and wipe your slate completely clean.

In other words, these things were not quality of life changes, they were ways to negate poor behavior and dodge the only reason that some people were decent.

[Kyanion]

Classic was a time when you were your character. You lived and died by your reputation, and a negative reputation would get you just as ignored as a positive reputation would almost guarantee a net positive when looking for groups.

To have the ability to pay to get away from your reputation was a big step down towards the anonymity / non-community of this game. It was a step in which you were no longer held accountable by your actions; you just paid Blizzard a few dollars and wipe your slate completely clean.

In other words, these things were not quality of life changes, they were ways to negate poor behavior and dodge the only reason that some people were decent.

And not every server was a fantasyland where you "lived and died by your reputation". Some people got well known for being thieving assholes and STILL managed to continually do it. And on top of that, too fucking bad, server transfers and later paid server transfers were both parts of Vanilla, so they should be part of Classic.

[FelPlague]

xDlate: "Are you going to implement in-game shop or things like that?"


Ion Hazzikostas: "Definitely not at launch. We may down the line if it's something that players want. When we say the shop I mean specifically only the services that were available in the original Classic period. Things like server transfers and race changes were available later in Classic. I could see a world in--let's say a year into Classic--as realms have become mature where a player wants to transfer to a different server to join a guild there to play with their friends, and they want us to provide a way that can make it happen. That's the sort of things we would do but no pets and mounts for sale or anything like that."

wowhead.com/news=291757/xdlate-wow-classic-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-and-calie-schie

Wth???

Race changes were implemented in wotlk! Server transfers were in but it had a 6 month cd.

not everyone has encylopedic knowlege, im sure he got home saw "oh server transfers were but race changed were not, i forgot that"


it happens, do you think these guys go to interviews with the wow wiki open?

cause they dot know what they are going to get asked, so theuy have to go off memory

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It kinda does... if your a bastard being able to get a fresh start without rolling back from level 1 isnt something that existed in classic and this change actively harms the communities ability to black list problem players.

race changing wonjt suddenly change their name
"oh there was that guy lostitsway but they were a night elf... this guy is a dwarf with the exact same gear... that must not be them."

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didn't they say there was going to be sharding, or was that only for the first couple months?

sharding for 1 month, to make it actuallty work
then they decided to change their mind and do layering which is even better for vanilla.

He might've misspoken that.

But tbh I don't care if they add race changes or whatever. I don't see how this would have any negative effect on the experience.

it happens to the best of us, hwell fucking hiru has a script AND HES FUCKING READING FROM IT and he still says "transmog was added in mists of pandaria"