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  1. #221
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    Blizzard created Classic to round up every forum "Retail" bashing neckbeard into one cesspool, so that the rest of the normal player base may enjoy their game in peace. So no.

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    Maybe for like the first few days if nothing is going on in the real game. Then everyone will be bored of being low level and leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clausuk57 View Post
    I don't think so at all, i think retail might be the niche market
    I think you should hand us some arguments.

    Otherwise..Oh look..another fresh account making a Classic vs retail thread that has been made loads of times before to stink up the forums

    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    100%. Not only will wow classic be far more popular than the naysayers would have us believe; but the state of bfa isn’t exactly encouraging

    It isn’t like wow classic is competing with wow at its peak... it’s competing with wow at its lowest
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    Clearly not, people will realise what a pile of garbage classic is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashblond View Post
    Of course not. Classic has 0 chance overtake retail.

    It is hard to understand why this question even exist...
    I don't know, blizzard has developed this nasty habit of making people wait a loooong ass time between expansions. I would not be surprised if there is a time when more people are in classic than live. Unlikely, but if you think about it it may happen. It is also why I think live and classic may be unlikely great companions. Blizzard should have done this years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clausuk57 View Post
    Matheney2k, if all the players who left throughout the years are coming back, just a small percentage of them, they will have a bigger population than retail.
    I mean from personal perspective I think one of the 50+ I used to play with back then is thinking about playing the rest have all said no thanks (myself included). It's grreat you are excited but don't get your hopes up.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Classic with all of its content patches has more content than Legion and BfA combined so... Classic can easily last one year or longer. And I am sure if Classic is a success TBC and all the other expansions will follow.

    Pretty sure WoW Retail right now has less subs than we had during the end of Classic. So actually WoW wasn't in a worse spot than it is right now due to Blizzard's massive and plentiful failures in the last 12+ months.
    I forgot the name of the bloody server....but at its peak it only had 100 to 200k followers and that was free. You're insane if you really think current WoW has less than a 100-200k subs. You're also insane if you think millions of people are gonna sub for classic.

    Most people have done all classic has to offer....they've done raids...quests...ect ect. There is no mystery and they sure as hell aren't going to be as challenging as they were back when vanilla was vanilla. Everything will be analyzed and down to death....there will also be many tools available that weren't back then.

    The beta has also proven people can't handle vanilla, reporting all kinds of things as bugs, which I'm sure those mechanics will drive some people away.

    You're just fooling yourself if you think vanilla is going to overtake live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    I forgot the name of the bloody server....but at its peak it only had 100 to 200k followers and that was free. You're insane if you really think current WoW has less than a 100-200k subs. You're also insane if you think millions of people are gonna sub for classic.

    You're just fooling yourself if you think vanilla is going to overtake live.
    Uhm I said during the end of Classic when WoW had several million subs in the lower regions, not 100-200k on a private server or whatever.

    You're fooling yourself if you think it won't be so. The hype and buzz about Classic has ALWAYS been a lot more than about BfA. Classic announcement in 2017 was a lot more popular than BfA announcement.
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    It’s certainly possible.
    Only thing retail really has going for it is mythic+ and even that ain’t going so great.
    40man raids will be rough in classic.

    I’ll be playing classic, don’t think I’ll play retail again unless things change dramatically.

    Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    I forgot the name of the bloody server....but at its peak it only had 100 to 200k followers and that was free. You're insane if you really think current WoW has less than a 100-200k subs. You're also insane if you think millions of people are gonna sub for classic.

    Most people have done all classic has to offer....they've done raids...quests...ect ect. There is no mystery and they sure as hell aren't going to be as challenging as they were back when vanilla was vanilla. Everything will be analyzed and down to death....there will also be many tools available that weren't back then.

    The beta has also proven people can't handle vanilla, reporting all kinds of things as bugs, which I'm sure those mechanics will drive some people away.

    You're just fooling yourself if you think vanilla is going to overtake live.
    I’ll be playing classic, private servers are kind of bogus. I’d say most common players think like this. I think it’s crazy 100-200k people missed classic so much they actually went through the effort and dealt with playing on a private server. If anything that tells me classic will easily clear a million people.
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    Shouldn't this thread be moved to Classic WoW - General Discussions?

    I feel like people ignore it because they want to get a rise out of people.
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    how much pot did u guys smoke who are saying that they will do TBC and WOTLK servers too
    u really cant be that stupid and think blizzard will split the small playerbase to 4 different wow versions
    they release classic till naxx and then its done

    classic will have alot of players at the start because of all those fortnite hipsterfgtstreamers on twitch, and after 2-3 months its down to 10% of retail player base

    also i love classic and i will play it. but as soon as ppl see how GRINDY and NO LIFE wow classic is, they will quit.
    classic take ZERO SKILL even braindead people can get rank 14 in pvp because its TIME >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SKILL

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    Quote Originally Posted by clausuk57 View Post
    I think a lot of players will realize they are wrong, whenever they start to play classic.

    Have you guys seen venruki newest video, he was one of the biggest naysayer and retail baby, but look at him now.
    No. It won't. Simple as that.
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    Most people won't like it even if you played back then. Just because current wow spoiled us. So no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xykotic View Post
    I think that largely depends on the status of retail. I think BfA is the single worst expansion we've had
    Where was you at WOD? THAT was the single worst xpac.


    No Classic will NEVER take over retail. especially when ps people realize they have to PAY for it

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    As someone who had about 5k+ hours in vanilla and leveled a shaman, rogue, warrior, and hunter: lol nope!

    If they had done WoW Plus with modern graphics and switch ups I might have been interested. Unlike old Japanese console games, mmos don't hold up as well and are comparatively boring as fuck and tedious.

    Diablo 2 remaster would be up my alley though. That shit holds up really well! I had about 3-4k hours into that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joggerwearerlol View Post
    how much pot did u guys smoke who are saying that they will do TBC and WOTLK servers too
    u really cant be that stupid and think blizzard will split the small playerbase to 4 different wow versions
    they release classic till naxx and then its done

    classic will have alot of players at the start because of all those fortnite hipsterfgtstreamers on twitch, and after 2-3 months its down to 10% of retail player base

    also i love classic and i will play it. but as soon as ppl see how GRINDY and NO LIFE wow classic is, they will quit.
    classic take ZERO SKILL even braindead people can get rank 14 in pvp because its TIME >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SKILL
    The funny thing is how people scream at BFA for time gatting and grinding while classic was time gatting to the max

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Uhm I said during the end of Classic when WoW had several million subs in the lower regions, not 100-200k on a private server or whatever.

    You're fooling yourself if you think it won't be so. The hype and buzz about Classic has ALWAYS been a lot more than about BfA. Classic announcement in 2017 was a lot more popular than BfA announcement.
    Except what happened back then has no value as to what will happen now. Back then vanilla wasn't farmed to death, people didn't know all the strats, and there was no theorycrafting at all. There were no best builds....there was best gear to be hunted as all people mostly cared about ws getting some good epics and having the resistances they needed.

    Vanilla was significantly harder back then....it still had mystery to it. Doesn't matter if there were millions of subs back then....it wont have those millions now.

    No matter how much you lie about the facts, vanilla isn't going to be big as you and the rose glasses gang *think* it will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Classic with all of its content patches has more content than Legion and BfA combined so... Classic can easily last one year or longer. And I am sure if Classic is a success TBC and all the other expansions will follow.

    Pretty sure WoW Retail right now has less subs than we had during the end of Classic. So actually WoW wasn't in a worse spot than it is right now due to Blizzard's massive and plentiful failures in the last 12+ months.
    What a bunch of not nonsense bs classic was never high in subs you can sugar coat it all you want but classic was crap , I was there to do it from day one and people will have a rude awakening when they realise what it really was

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    Were is the poll with 5 out 6 options being a variation of "No"?

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    It will pull in some returning players as well as a decent amount of people that are still currently playing, but I don't think that many players that cross over will just stop playing retail nor do I believe that classic will pull in enough returning players to create a population that would threaten retail numbers.

    I'm predicting that long-term it will be a (relatively) small core group of people that play it seriously and a fluctuating population of nostalgia tourists.

    Personally I have no interest in playing it, but considering the ridiculous amount of infighting over the topic I AM interested in seeing how this all pans out.

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    From what I remember, the next patch was about to launch in August, right?

    With Classic releasing in August, either Blizzard will postpone its arrival, or they'll release both at same time (which I doubt).
    They made a big mistake (from my point of view) releasing Throne of Thunder and Firelands (?) in Summer Breaks, and now they're doing the same with Next Patch/Classic.

    If both are released in different occasions, Classic for sure will beat Retail for a few days/weeks. If both are released at same time, retail will win for sure.
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