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  1. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    There were only a couple of million subscribers during Vanilla. There has been over 100 million more subscribers since then who have never gotten a chance to experience the game that they've loved at its inception.

    You do the math.
    This is true, but not only that, look at the huge advance in Technology, mainly internet and Broadband, Back in 2004 having access to the game was limited, not everyone had personal Computers at home, I know I didn't, in fact not many people had access to the internet, today these things are a way of life, the Original game had a very limited marked.

  2. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by Varleen View Post
    Not a chance. It's a niche product for a niche playerbase.



    Explain why launching with broken and non-tested talent trees is a good thing.
    because thats how the game was. doing all the pre-naxx raids on 1.12 will be basically LFR-level difficulty. server pops are goign to take a nose dive because everyone will be bored.

  3. #423
    It's mind boggling to me how both sides seem to have this absolute belief that it will go either way. And it's fully based on their subjective preference of the game. No one actually knows what the majority is until Blizzard releases numbers some months down the line into classic.

  4. #424
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayluck View Post
    Yep keep telling yourself that.

    It will be millions. And when it overtakes retail there's going to be so much crying. I mean the retail people already feel threatened by Classic that they are bashing the game.
    I'm not bashing classic, I think it's actually nice option to have as part of the main game. What I am bashing is this hype induced overdose that put so many of you completely out of touch with reality. Classic will have 50k - 100k active players after the initial hype is gone...

  5. #425
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    Not a chance.

  6. #426
    I can 100% guarantee Blizz will announce its been a huge success, they did the exact same with BFA not long after launch, and look how that turned out.
    They will not release numbers, they do not need to, plus with the combined Live and Classic sub they can say either one is doing good and not be wrong.

  7. #427
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevenmad View Post
    I can 100% guarantee Blizz will announce its been a huge success, they did the exact same with BFA not long after launch, and look how that turned out.
    They will not release numbers, they do not need to, plus with the combined Live and Classic sub they can say either one is doing good and not be wrong.
    Im interested to see what metric Blizzard will use to show Classics success.

    I made a prediction thread that eventually they will release actual numbers for Classic...but thats just my stupid prediction.

  8. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by Brewhan View Post
    classic will overtake retail then blizz will progress to BC servers like 3 years later . Then another 3 years later into WOTLK servers. WE turn into lemmings where we gobble the shit up again that we played 10 years+ ago already. Instead of a real WOW2 blizz just re-releases the same games we played already lol. BIG brain plays . EZ money.
    why would they do that?
    but hey atleast u get to play BFA again in a few years
    sounds good

    and they dont have to release any numbers
    there were addons back in time counting the playerbase of a server

  9. #429
    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Overtake? No. Classic is fed by retail. People who want to go to the museum can do so as long as they have the sub for WoW.
    While I don't disagree that it's fairly niche and that it won't overtake retail, I don't really think they aim for the same playerbase at all.
    I don't think nearly any retail player will actually give a shit about Classic, and the servers will mostly be filled with people that stopped playing 3+ expansions ago.

  10. #430
    It's going to be hilarious when maybe 10% of classic players actually hit max level and whine about how hard it is.

  11. #431
    They will only release the number they have to for investors and shareholders. Their a busines and here to make money first and foremost, don't believe everything they publicly state, that's just basic business PR were everything is heavily manipulated to always look good.

    It wasn't that long ago Blizzard publicly stated they would not release classic servers yet now we are here, and why, because Blizzard now realize they can make a lot of money from it........nothing else.

    Vanilla WoW was developed by gamers for gamers, just a group of IRL friends having fun and creating something for themselves, that's the biggest difference between Vanilla and today, now its business first and foremost with a goal of making as much money as possible.
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  12. #432
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevenmad View Post
    I can 100% guarantee Blizz will announce its been a huge success, they did the exact same with BFA not long after launch, and look how that turned out.
    And that has always been the case. Expansion launches generates renewed interest and people return to play the game. What makes you think that would not happen to Classic. Blizzard has said that some people plays in cycle. They return at launch. Leaves after a few month. Return later.

    What will really judge Classic is how many people remain at the end of the first year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elevenmad View Post
    They will not release numbers, they do not need to, plus with the combined Live and Classic sub they can say either one is doing good and not be wrong.
    So how do people know BFA is doing that badly? Because of those self promoting streamers say so?

  13. #433
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    For a brief time there will be more players playing classic riding off the initial hype. Should die down in theory but who knows. Either way Blizzard wins since you need to pay a sub so for all the complaining about retail you're still rewarding them.

  14. #434
    Yes, for about 3 months.

    And then it will slowly bleed out until there are basically 2.5 guilds on each faction that do raiding consistently. I say 2.5 because you know there will be a try hard 3rd guild that is always always always recruiting to push content but just can't get their roster filled up.

  15. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by Tikishock View Post
    Yes, for about 3 months.

    And then it will slowly bleed out until there are basically 2.5 guilds on each faction that do raiding consistently. I say 2.5 because you know there will be a try hard 3rd guild that is always always always recruiting to push content but just can't get their roster filled up.
    3 entire months? Humm thats really generous.

    I dont pretend i know whats gonna happen...all i know is that Classic will be insane on Day 1.
    Thats as far as my prediction goes.

    I have "alternative realities" i would like to happen though.
    Like CLassic being incredibly successful and overtake retail...but reading comments here always brings me down to earth.

  16. #436
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    3 entire months? Humm thats really generous.

    I dont pretend i know whats gonna happen...all i know is that Classic will be insane on Day 1.
    Thats as far as my prediction goes.

    I have "alternative realities" i would like to happen though.
    Like CLassic being incredibly successful and overtake retail...but reading comments here always brings me down to earth.
    I figure people will at least level to 60!

  17. #437
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    Classic will have a lot of people subscribed to it during the first weeks. After the initial nostalgia trip settles down, It will slowly lose people and everyone will flock to the more populous servers.
    Eventually, 300k or less people will play it
    This world don't give us nothing. It be our lot to suffer... and our duty to fight back.

  18. #438
    However we should accept the fact that this is definitely not the classic we used to play because of many reasons:

    - We are way more prepared
    - There are some difference ( think about druid with end vanilla talents )
    - Server sharing for pvp ( which was introduced at the end ).

    Etc...

    However the beta is just started.
    It's too soon to claim that it will last or not, or it will surpass the retail one or not.

  19. #439
    I think most high IQ 10/10 chads will play classic WoW and the normies will play BFA

  20. #440
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayluck View Post
    It's obvious you and the other people spouting that clearly didn't play. It's ok though people who actually played can fill you in.

    I did and you actually had to put in a lot of effort just to raid. Bosses would easily wipe a raid if you came unprepared or without mechanic knowledge. Of course when you were geared it got a lot easier but still.
    Its kinda obvious to me that you didn't play. you wipe without mechanic knowledge. yeah for the 3 mechanics most bosses had ? Ofcourse you wipe without knowing mechanics, but look at Mythic argus, mythic jaina, Mythic crucible compared to any vanilla bosses. Nothing was hard, mechanic wise compared to today. Guilds like method would clear every single vanilla raid in a day if they play wow classic now
    I cleared naxx 40 before tbc with my guild in vanilla. Server first on every single raid boss. I have no chance of joining a server first mythic raid today, or even a decent mythic guild, cause im not good enough, i was good enough to raid back then

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