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  1. #421
    I love how suddenly everyone in this thread played vanilla and tanked dungeon with a 2h warrior that was 10 level below mobs levels saying how easy it was.

  2. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Haha. I litteraly did WC an hour ago. It's silly easy and I mean SILLY.
    Go away.
    I'm sure you pulled 3 packs at a time and just aoed them down, while noone took any damage and healer had full mana constantly.
    Last edited by Dergiab; 2019-05-21 at 04:47 PM.

  3. #423
    I never imagined there would be so much hate for Classic. I don't get why people are so annoyed at it and are constantly trying to find a reason to bash it.

    Anyway... dungeons being easy up to around level 30 currently. Well what did you expect? Mythic raid content before you get a mount? It makes sense for them to be manageable before getting to end game stuff. I personally am looking forward to Classic and will definitely be playing it alongside current WoW.
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  4. #424
    Quote Originally Posted by Bats View Post
    I never imagined there would be so much hate for Classic. I don't get why people are so annoyed at it and are constantly trying to find a reason to bash it.

    Anyway... dungeons being easy up to around level 30 currently. Well what did you expect? Mythic raid content before you get a mount? It makes sense for them to be manageable before getting to end game stuff. I personally am looking forward to Classic and will definitely be playing it alongside current WoW.
    Because they are scared it will be more popular i guess.

    never understood people who cant just play what they enjoy and let other play what they enjoy. mental disorders?

  5. #425
    Quote Originally Posted by Armadildo View Post
    People try low level dungeons. OH MY GERD ITS EASY.
    Good luck in stratholme.
    That's what I was thinking. Can't really move to the wrong place there or you will have 20 mobs on you.

  6. #426
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  7. #427
    Dungeons in early vanilla were very hard because people were still learning about the game. You'd have mail wearers with cloth gear, or casters with a strength staff. Not using optimal rotations, abilities and talents.

    IIRC, things were pretty easy towards the end of vanilla. I recall tanking live side strath as a fury warrior with mostly max level dungeon blues.

  8. #428
    I remember classic dungeons being hard because I Was really bad at the game.

    I was one of those noob ass hunters who wore the scarlet mail set until I was like in the mid 50s because I thought it looked cool, and I melee'd so I could proc the whirlwind effect on the axe. A lot of people were like that.

    The hardest part about dungeons was how long they took because we would get lost, and in the longer dungeons like BRD or sunken temple where the later mobs would be a much higher level than the mobs at the beginning and the tank just gets slaughtered.

    I feel like dungeons weren't difficult until TBC heroics. Shattered Halls, Shadow Labs, and Arcatraz were pretty sadistic imo.

    Granted Mythic+ is definitely the peak of dungeon difficulty, but being able to adjust the difficulty makes it less memorable.
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  9. #429
    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Yeah and 5 29s are gonna be "wasting time" up to Electrocutioner, pretty much. The only way early dungeons become "hard" is when you're the right level for the start but not the end, was all my point was. Hell Deadmines starts at 15/16 and ends at 21, the end of Deadmines can be tricky (boatwheel/cannon glitch notwithstanding) when you're all level 17 when you get there.

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    You don't go into dungeons in classic for XP, you go there to get loot that will carry you 10 levels while leveling in the world. leveling through dungeons is the absolute slowest you can do, including just grinding mobs.

  10. #430
    Quote Originally Posted by Dergiab View Post
    I'm sure you pulled 3 packs at a time and just aoed them down, while noone took any damage and healer had full mana constantly.
    No, AOE is limited but 3 packs works well enough and the game is still super easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qnubi View Post
    You don't go into dungeons in classic for XP, you go there to get loot that will carry you 10 levels while leveling in the world. leveling through dungeons is the absolute slowest you can do, including just grinding mobs.
    Don't forget about quests with tons of experience and including blue rewards
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  12. #432
    Quote Originally Posted by hardtofin View Post
    What do you guys think about this?

    I played vanilla and definitely remember them being as hard if not harder than the levelling. The guys in the beta are reporting levelling being MUCH hard than private servers but dungeons being WAY easier. They are talking about the possibility there was a stealth nerf to dungeons in 1.12

    I hope this wasn't the case as easy dungeons will really suck in classic imo, what do you guys reckon?
    They probably were hard, but u also have a better understanding of the game now. Which makes them much easier.

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    Dungeons in vanilla WoW were never really even hard to begin with.

    Going at a slower pace was normal, using CC was normal, and you rarely saw the "go go go" mentality you do nowadays.

  14. #434
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    No, AOE is limited but 3 packs works well enough and the game is still super easy.
    Would love to see some footage of that. Until then, didn't happen.
    Last edited by Dergiab; 2019-05-21 at 07:19 PM.

  15. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by vsb View Post
    I have no idea who those people watching streamers. That's pretty dumb thing to do! There might be exceptions like watching high level PvP player to learn from him. But popular streamers don't do anything worth of watching, they just play. I watched some beta streamers a little bit, just because I can't play classic, but I would never do that if I would have an access! People are so weird!
    You know it is 2019. It may schock you but most people have dual monitors. I always turn on twitch stream on 1 monitor and play game on second one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    I never struggled in dungeons while leveling, not until BC. The illusion that dungeons were mega hard is a combination of nostalgia from when you were younger and worse at the game, and private servers that intentionally buffed these dungeons.
    Not like its any different on retail tho.

  16. #436
    Quote Originally Posted by Dergiab View Post
    Would love to see some footage of that. Until then, didn't happen.
    I'll get a few sceens for you tonight. Early morning today, I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtofin View Post
    I played vanilla and definitely remember them being as hard if not harder than the levelling.
    You remember wrong. Vanilla was faceroll easy as long as you had non braindead players with you. Most of the players being braindead, just like now.
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  18. #438
    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    You remember wrong. Vanilla was faceroll easy as long as you had non braindead players with you. Most of the players being braindead, just like now.
    Do people really don't remember that wow at that time was the casual version of MMO? I'm still surprised a guy that claims he played vanilla open this type of threats vanilla=time consuming, I bet my paycheck that if they don't do the fights mathematical impossible the raids will fall with crazy speeds

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    At least Rhahk'zor (and probably more or even all other mobs) is working as intended. The damage really is "that low".

  20. #440
    Quote Originally Posted by Elias01 View Post
    Not like its any different on retail tho.
    Err, live servers do have the option of much more difficult dungeons than anything that was in classic.

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