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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by MardestyGSOG View Post
    Again, it’s not nostalgia when hundreds of thousands have been playing and enjoying vanilla for years, like literally right now.
    Nostalrius was lucky to get 200k people, playing for FREE. While MILLIONS continued to play retail.

  2. #202
    Once classic launches every nay sayer will eat their own words which is why debating them has been a waste of time, they have No idea what they are talking about.
    Its a great game, it does have a shelf life if you only play one character and don't raid at all, it extends if you do raid and if you play more than one character because the leveling experience is a massive part of that experience.

    Most nay sayers will enjoy it despite themselves but they'll reach end game and act like the twats they are in bfa and nobody will want to group with them and they'll leave, the entitled "wrath babies" will expect a piece of loot every dungeon when in reality it can be a week before you get a relevant drop at end game, and longer once you start hunting down the last few pieces because everyone else wants those pieces too.
    Dragonflight Nerfs vs fun again show a Blizzard that hasn't learnt a lesson, Actions speak louder than words afterall watch what they do and do not do.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by marcusblood View Post
    Nostalrius was lucky to get 200k people, playing for FREE. While MILLIONS continued to play retail.
    What about that says that there isn’t a large player base for classic?

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by MardestyGSOG View Post
    What about that says that there isn’t a large player base for classic?
    They were playing for free.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by marcusblood View Post
    They were playing for free.
    Very good point. We'll have to see how this plays out. The other side of the coin would bring up the people that didn't play a private server because they knew it could be shut down at any point, voiding their progress. I'm that side of the coin. I'd rather pay knowing it's going to be reliable.

  6. #206
    people like him thought it was nostalgia because wow has died a death of a thousand cuts, it's easy to forget all the tiny changes they've made over the years which have been bad for the game because they were all given to us in small doses over a long period of time. nostalgia is real, but in the case of classic it is simply a better game than retail which is why everyone is so excited. also, this is really nothing, wait for tbc to be released and you'll see the real difference between what wow was and what it is now.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunareste View Post
    Lmao, Venruki is a random youtuber that nobody has ever heard of?
    He is the op. Clever marketing
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Why do people keep saying this? 6 months after BFA they probably lost 50% of their subs (my guess is more, actually). Of COURSE classic is going to have a similar drop off, dont act like this would be an oddity.
    Well then why do people act as if Classic is the liberator that will provide them eternal fun? In truth, it will stagnate after the initial fuss, just like BfA. The only problem is that retail will keep being exciting every new patch/expansion, while Classic's lifeline ends at Naxxramas.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Soluna View Post
    Well then why do people act as if Classic is the liberator that will provide them eternal fun? In truth, it will stagnate after the initial fuss, just like BfA. The only problem is that retail will keep being exciting every new patch/expansion, while Classic's lifeline ends at Naxxramas.
    Obviously lol? Thats still 2-2.5 years of awesome content that will stay pretty hyped due to how they are releasing content in stages. Cool thing is the good WoW didnt end at vanilla, they could re-release TBC and wrath which in my eyes are just as good as classic all things considered (classic was better in some, tbc/wrath better in others).

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    Venruki PVP casts for Blizzard of course he isnt going to bad mouth blizzard products.
    I'm gonna let 'em know that Dolemite is back on the scene! I'm gonna let 'em know that Dolemite is my name, and fuckin' up motherfuckers is my game!

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by starkey View Post
    Venruki PVP casts for Blizzard of course he isnt going to bad mouth blizzard products.
    Not even just that. He's getting a good number of viewers for the first time in a LONG time.

    People are going to hype up shit that's buttering their bread - lets see how the tune changes when some of these streams are back down to their normal levels of viewership.

  12. #212
    -- See's 100k+ viewer spikes on other streams --

    Oh boi that classic lookin' good. Time to reverse any negative opinions and play.

    It'll be interesting to see what staying power it's got though, I can see myself jumping over to play instead of doing WQ's in spare time.. Raiding and PvP will probably just stick to retail.. The number required for classic probably won't be consistent after a few resets and having the fan base split won't make that any easier, Hell it's hard for groups on retail to keep grounps interested after a month now..

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by duselsteiner View Post
    So much fun to collect all those zhevra hoofs. For hours.
    yes. good job showcasing you have no clue what you are talking about

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by MardestyGSOG View Post
    What about that says that there isn’t a large player base for classic?
    The FREE part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qck View Post
    Not even just that. He's getting a good number of viewers for the first time in a LONG time.

    People are going to hype up shit that's buttering their bread - lets see how the tune changes when some of these streams are back down to their normal levels of viewership.
    Tried to explain this - they just ignore that logic, and the many, many youtubers and streamers saying its garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykd View Post
    -- See's 100k+ viewer spikes on other streams --

    Oh boi that classic lookin' good. Time to reverse any negative opinions and play.

    It'll be interesting to see what staying power it's got though, I can see myself jumping over to play instead of doing WQ's in spare time.. Raiding and PvP will probably just stick to retail.. The number required for classic probably won't be consistent after a few resets and having the fan base split won't make that any easier, Hell it's hard for groups on retail to keep grounps interested after a month now..
    They wont listen - they like being pandered to. Anything that tells them what they want to hear - they will ignore any balanced discussions, and the multitude of negative streams / videos about classic.

  15. #215
    Played to 20 on beta now and although i only thought i'd play it to see how it is. I must admit it's great. The downtime between pulls and accidentally pulling couple more mobs can be very annoying but man the feeling after i completed 5 quest and heading back to town is so f good. I think when Classic is launched i'll level relaxed and enjoy the journy as much as possible. Leveling professions and doing every class quest. It's gonna be amazing.

    Meanwhile i'll stay play retail for my weekly raids and m+. Everyone's happy.

  16. #216
    Yes, because the vast numbers of people who've been watching Classic streams are only doing it because they are mindless robots who have to look at the latest new thing, it couldn't possibly be because there is genuine widespread interest in playing a proper social MMO.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/...ouch/?sort=new

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by WowClassic View Post
    Yes, because the vast numbers of people who've been watching Classic streams are only doing it because they are mindless robots who have to look at the latest new thing, it couldn't possibly be because there is genuine widespread interest in playing a proper social MMO.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/...ouch/?sort=new
    pretty much this. All this hate from retail players have 1 single root. It is fear. Fear of retail stop being Blizzard focus if Classic will be sucessfull in long run. Fear of Blizard changing their instant gratification casino into actual mmorpg.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    The FREE part.

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    Tried to explain this - they just ignore that logic, and the many, many youtubers and streamers saying its garbage.

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    They wont listen - they like being pandered to. Anything that tells them what they want to hear - they will ignore any balanced discussions, and the multitude of negative streams / videos about classic.
    Yea nah... that’s not a real connection, that’s assuming that a large portion of the player base literally only plays because it’s free when in fact these are the people who have been asking and petitioning for vanilla servers all this time. Guess they’ll all just back out when the servers finally get here because these grown ass people can’t afford $15 a month. Shit there’s a BIG number of these people who are subbed and playing private servers because they dabble in retail but prefer vanilla, that was me all the way up until the absolute piece of shit known as BFA came

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykd View Post
    -- See's 100k+ viewer spikes on other streams --

    Oh boi that classic lookin' good. Time to reverse any negative opinions and play.

    It'll be interesting to see what staying power it's got though, I can see myself jumping over to play instead of doing WQ's in spare time.. Raiding and PvP will probably just stick to retail.. The number required for classic probably won't be consistent after a few resets and having the fan base split won't make that any easier, Hell it's hard for groups on retail to keep grounps interested after a month now..

    Maybe it’s hard to keep groups interested because... and hear me out here... because the game is horrible now

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusblood View Post
    They were playing for free.
    The same people playing this for years, petitioning for vanilla wow to be made official, many of them even being subbed while also playing private servers, are just gonna not okay what they’ve asked for for years because of $15 a month, right.

    $15 a month is literally not a big deal to like 90% of first world adults and for entertainment purposes most will gladly pay that, I mean there have been subs to wow this whole time, what the hell makes you think classic won’t have subs?

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Askyl View Post
    Give the family 4 out of 6 hours on average and it's still 10 hours a week, which is very much more than enough for both vanilla and another hobby. Could also try to invite your family to share this hobby with you My girlfriends entire family played WoW since release, that was their kind of family time. Anything is possible.

    I know I'm quite fortunte. I have 5 min drive to work and lots of spare time, but I'm quite sure the majority do have enough time to play.

    And you do know that Nihilum was a guild with pretty much a good mix with people with jobs and families right? They managed to get a few world firsts
    You transplant your experiences and the experiences of a minority onto the majority.

    Having such a short time to your work mean that you have less prep time and meaning you can get away with sleeping later. I had an internship that had me travel for 2 hours (public transportation sucks), for six months my WoW time dropped so much that I was offline for a month,

    This put me on the high end of the average, you're on the low end, the average is in between.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by marcusblood View Post
    They were playing for free.
    Some were playing for free, some were donating to keep servers running, some even donated really large amounts compared to a wow sub.

    This continous effort to make ppl that play or have played on pservers look like parasites that only play for free doesnt stick and makes me believe that you still didnt understand the composition of said player base.

    I'll even go further and say without a doubt, that if they release a pimped out classic collectors edition of some sort it will be a real sales sucess.

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