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    Learn the difference between guilt and responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    Learn the difference between guilt and responsibility.
    Responsibility is taking care of something you caused personally.
    Guilt culture is being told to feel guilt for something that some other guy did 100 years ago.

    Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefolk View Post
    Guilt is the only way you can stop little boys from touching themselves. Or is that shame?
    "Son, stop touching yourself or you'll go blind!"

    "Dad, I'm over here."
    "As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    -H.L. Mencken, 1920

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veknazel View Post
    It's all about eroding pride and nationalism and turning people into mindless sheep. Nowadays being a patriot will get you shunned.
    What is there to be proud of? You didn't do a bloody thing to determine where you were born.
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    If you want to be disgusted, next time you kiss someone remember you've got your mouth on the end of a tube which has shit at the other end, held back by a couple of valves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Has lost its way View Post
    This is something that always struck me as a bit off but why does guilt seem to play such a large role in the history of the west? From Canada with its Indian schools to Americans with slavery, and Europe with the holocaust.

    Why is it that these issues seem to press so heavily on the mind of so many especially when the grand majority of people alive had nothing to do with them? Looking around the world this sort of culture seems to really only exist in the west what makes it stick around so long?
    The West is the first civilization to achieve economic prosperity. Meaning we can sit around and be self-reflective in our free time, instead of worrying about starvation and survival. It's just a part of societal progress, moving up from basic needs to worrying about more luxurious topics like social justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Has lost its way View Post
    This is something that always struck me as a bit off but why does guilt seem to play such a large role in the history of the west? From Canada with its Indian schools to Americans with slavery, and Europe with the holocaust.

    Why is it that these issues seem to press so heavily on the mind of so many especially when the grand majority of people alive had nothing to do with them? Looking around the world this sort of culture seems to really only exist in the west what makes it stick around so long?
    If you had nothing to do with them, why are you defending them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veknazel View Post
    Responsibility is taking care of something you caused personally.
    Guilt culture is being told to feel guilt for something that some other guy did 100 years ago.

    Correct?
    This is implying that this shit ever stopped in any meaningful way. It hasn't. It's just changed form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give Sethrak Blizz View Post
    The worst part about this entire post is the generalization that people in other countries don't engage in self-reflexion.
    Actually that's true that they aren't reflective for the most part, most places don't have the luxury to be obsessed with self-criticism.

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    have you traveled to other countries

    i feel like you havent

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    Because thats a source of political capital for many politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    This is implying that this shit ever stopped in any meaningful way. It hasn't. It's just changed form.
    Where can I buy some slaves or holocaust some people?
    Or should I just stop asking questions and hate myself?

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    To forget your history is to doom yourself to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
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    I thought it was telling them the palm of their hand will grow hair if they do so.
    Basically this, which would be more fear than guilt or shame. We are good at making the public fearful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy
    People just want to be bullies without facing any sort of consequences or social fallout for being a bully. If you declare X as a racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. person you can say or do whatever you want to them, ignoring the fact that they are a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEHPALLYTANK View Post
    What is there to be proud of? You didn't do a bloody thing to determine where you were born.
    Thats exactly why it is so hypocritical. You arent allowed to be proud of the good things your ancestors did, yet you are suposed to feel guild for the bad things they did. Let bygones be bygones.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dark One View Post
    To forget your history is to doom yourself to repeat it.
    This quote gets missused to justify so much bad propaganda. There is a huge difference between remembering and living in guilt. Its okay to have like a slavery or holocaust memorial day. Its not okay to expect people to feel bad for it every day of their lifes.

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    It's not. The idea that it is is a false narrative spun by people who want excuses to be shitty.

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    Because people who can't and didn't, want to make you feel bad for your success. Just look at the massive constant attacks on those that have vs those that don't.
    Last edited by Leotheras the Blind; 2019-05-20 at 05:43 AM.
    You know, it's kinda funny. On this forum you can question and criticize celebrities, developers, even governments. But only two you will net you instant infractions; religion and the actions of moderators. Really puts into perspective the literal god complexes we're dealing with here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Because cultures that are molded by Abrahamic religions are often running on guilt-innocence type of social control.
    There's an armchair hypothesis going around that actually the people pushing these notions of tribal/cultural/civilizational guilt are actually just descendants of puritans in the North East United States.

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    Translation: I wasn't involved in any of these things so why should I care that they happened to people I don't give a fuck about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    People in cars cause accidents. Accidents in cars cause people.
    "That's my style; I like to kick 'em when they're down!"
    And thus I give you: MALE contraception!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    This is implying that this shit ever stopped in any meaningful way. It hasn't. It's just changed form.
    Actually it hasn't changed form at all. It's merely more represented in non-western countries, since the west has advanced socially and morally. But I guess the mind needs things to be "just as bad as they always were" in some strange equilibrium, so people pretend that wage slavery is just as bad as slavery, or that lynchings are a real threat, or that police violence is a real threat. Those are significant concerns, in other cultures. The things underlying this proposed guilt culture still haven't been eradicated outside the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    NO ONE is living in guilt, it's an exaggeration to say so.
    No one in a healthy mind is. Yet there are people who want you to to still feel bad for what the vikings did. Some mentaly sick people actualy live in guilt or even go as far as suicide to stop living in the guilt of the holocaust. You would be suprised about what kind of people you meet when working in a mental hospital.
    Last edited by plato13; 2019-05-20 at 05:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plato13 View Post
    This quote gets missused to justify so much bad propaganda. There is a huge difference between remembering and living in guilt. Its okay to have like a slavery or holocaust memorial day. Its not okay to expect people to feel bad for it every day of their lifes.
    I don't personally feel any guilt for either of the examples you gave, but I sure as hell am not going to forget them, and I will definitely make sure my children understand what happened and why so that they can use that information to make critical decisions in the future.
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