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  1. #201
    I'm okay with San'layn if that means no lightforged undead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDaz View Post
    Undead vs. Worgen 2.0: Lightbound Undead for Alliance and Saberon for the Horde?

    You are also missing the Pandaria pair as well.
    Probably Ankoan (Jinyu 2.0) for Alliance and Mogu for the Horde.
    Mogu? Not likely. Hozen are far more likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    1. You're being too literal there :P and if they 'do the swap again' what exactly are you proposing? That it can be any race?
    literal is how things work, like it said they have lots of options, they can use the worgen model/rig ot a race and give to the horde drakonid or saberons, and use the undead model to give a race to the alliance, ligh undeads those mindflayers like race, who knows.
    2. No, there can still have been pushback and they can still be common due to other factors like racials.
    its because the receptions is way bigger than the pushback

    3. Subjective disagreement.
    thats not subjection case you are just giving a nonsense explanation with no base exception your own headcanon

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Mogu? Not likely. Hozen are far more likely.
    Not by any *practical* measure
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  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    It was half way underwater during the Horde Quest.


    Seeing the place a ship sinks doesn't mean you know where it ends up on the ocean floor, rarely does anything sinking go straight down, it will roll, possibly break apart, smash into the seabed and sink into the silt, etc.


    There still hasn't been given a good reason why the Horde, why the Forsaken would spend so much effort to drag a ship that most likely wont even be in one piece from the ocean floor, and judging by the new boats, I think like most things the Forsaken no longer drag up sunken boats, like their new buildings they make them from scratch.


    as I said above, seeing a boat sink =/= knowing where it settled on the ocean floor.




    Hell this doesn't even go into how most of the bodies on the ship probably got sucked out as the ship sank, and could be hundreds of yards from the wreck.




    Because being a slave to the lich king equals literally no free will? I don't think I have to explain why free willed undead would rather side with other free willed undead over giving up their own minds once more.




    And that's the beauty of opinions, I don't rather care if San'layn get added or not, but you're trying very hard to make them sound less likely then they are.
    Those would be logical problems. However as shown with Derek, blizzard doesn't care about that kind of stuff. But sure, assume they don't care about the ships or that they are "impossible" to find(lmao), Slyvanus should still be interested in Dreven's corpse. She is hinted at having the power to raise elves, why wouldn't she try to find him and revive him? Because the San'layn are failures and she doesn't care about them anymore?

    Why do you assume most San'layn would care about free willed undead? The San'layn seemed fine serving the previous Lich King.

    They are very unlikely simply due to the fact they are elves which there is already plently of. A belf blood DK is already a San'layn anyway.
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    Given how they can't post as much because they keep getting banned, I'd say if anyone's spazzing out, it'd be them.
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    im not saying all blood elf fans are weird edgelord neo-nazis

    but all weird edgelord neo-nazis in wow are blood elf rpers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripzzz View Post
    Those would be logical problems. However as shown with Derek, blizzard doesn't care about that kind of stuff. But sure, assume they don't care about the ships or that they are "impossible" to find(lmao), Slyvanus should still be interested in Dreven's corpse. She is hinted at being to raise elves, why wouldn't she try to find him and revive him? Because the San'layn are failures.
    Or Sylvanas finds the logistics of looking for one Vampire body on the bottom of the sea isn't worth the distractions, time and effort to resurrect when she's dealing with whatever secret project she's been on all expansion. I fail to see how Sylvanas would turn down more San'layn however, one minor blood prince was a moderate adversary, if she say is approached by https://wow.gamepedia.com/Prince_Theraldis and https://wow.gamepedia.com/Prince_Atherann and whatever followers/ vampires with them she isn't going to turn them down.

    Why do you assume most San'layn would care about free willed undead? The San'layn seemed fine serving the previous Lich King.
    Why are you assuming undead previously under control of the lich king would rather be re-mentally enslaved by said lich king rather than say, keep their minds their own and join other independent undead?


    They are very unlikely simply due to the fact they are elves which there is already plently of. A belf blood DK is already a San'layn anyway.
    Not really, a San'layn is a specific creation, a plan of Arthas. As for "too much elves" blizzard has never been one for paying attention to complaints, and if they do they acknowledge it and do it anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Or Sylvanas finds the logistics of looking for one Vampire body on the bottom of the sea isn't worth the distractions, time and effort to resurrect when she's dealing with whatever secret project she's been on all expansion. I fail to see how Sylvanas would turn down more San'layn however, one minor blood prince was a moderate adversary, if she say is approached by https://wow.gamepedia.com/Prince_Theraldis and https://wow.gamepedia.com/Prince_Atherann and whatever followers/ vampires with them she isn't going to turn them down.



    Why are you assuming undead previously under control of the lich king would rather be re-mentally enslaved by said lich king rather than say, keep their minds their own and join other independent undead?




    Not really, a San'layn is a specific creation, a plan of Arthas. As for "too much elves" blizzard has never been one for paying attention to complaints, and if they do they acknowledge it and do it anyways.
    Pretty sure Slyvanus won't be warchief long enough for another Blood Prince to try and join. It's been years since Wotlk and the San'layn don't seem to give a damn about the Forsaken since they haven't even interacted until BfA. And even then they joined at the wrong time and got wiped oit because the joined during a massive war.

    They might not want to be enslaved, but they might not care if it means they get tons of blood to drink. If they really cared about joining free willed undead we would of heard about them trying to join sooner.
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    Given how they can't post as much because they keep getting banned, I'd say if anyone's spazzing out, it'd be them.
    Quote Originally Posted by sillag View Post
    im not saying all blood elf fans are weird edgelord neo-nazis

    but all weird edgelord neo-nazis in wow are blood elf rpers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripzzz View Post
    Pretty sure Slyvanus won't be warchief long enough for another Blood Prince to try and join. It's been years since Wotlk and the San'layn don't seem to give a damn about the Forsaken since they haven't even interacted until BfA. And even then they joined at the wrong time and got wiped oit because the joined during a massive war.

    They might not want to be enslaved, but they might not care if it means they get tons of blood to drink. If they really cared about joining free willed undead we would of heard about them trying to join sooner.
    I guess we'll see then, no more than ever is the time for them to join if they want a steady supply of blood, also in the past Sylvanas wasn't warchief, we have no idea how long it took for Dreven to talk into joining the Horde, and we have no idea if the other Blood princes/ princesses are in contact/ planing to join/ already are in that process of joining.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  9. #209
    Who's the pandaren allies?

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    Lightforged Undead is monumentally retarded.
    Can't really think of anything else however, which is.. disturbing.

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    Not by any *practical* measure
    Practical being?

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by wanax View Post
    Practical being?
    Ease of making a model with animations for being playable

    Having an existing female skeleton

    Easier ties to the "death" narrative and Forsaken
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    People have mentioned that Sethrak are the Worgen equivalent.
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  14. #214
    Sethrak, repeat after me: S E T H R A K. Other beastly race to fit it.

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    Alliance: Junk Gnomes (Gnome AR), Sethrak (Worgen AR)
    Horde: Vulpera (Goblin AR), Fresh Undead, think Nathanos (Forsaken AR)
    All 4 available in either 8.3.5 or 9.0, similar to the first 4 ARs.

    Would like to see Ogres or Mok’nathal as a Horde race and Naga or Drakonid as an Alliance race at some point as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    Ease of making a model with animations for being playable

    Having an existing female skeleton

    Easier ties to the "death" narrative and Forsaken
    Technically they shouldn't be an AR anyway as they're already part of the Horde, they'd just be a full on race. Your points are valid for AR practicality though. Id like to see the "less decayed" Nathanos look as an AR. Then give Alliance something based off of the skinny undead model.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnubbles View Post
    People have mentioned that Sethrak are the Worgen equivalent.
    Doubtful, while they're POPULAR the Sethrak's hood and position on Zandalar make them much harder to work compared to other options. Ankoan / Jinyu are more likely imo.
    Twas brillig

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Shoggoth View Post
    I'm okay with San'layn if that means no lightforged undead.
    First good argument for San'layn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athorha View Post
    Who's the pandaren allies?
    Tortollan?
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  20. #220
    I think it will be as simple as this :

    - Vulpera for Horde, Junker-gnome for Alliance
    - Sethrak for horde (Worgen female variant) and Lightforged forsaken for Alliance (Forsaken model variant)

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