I would imagine these more bestial Worgen would undergo a modified form of the Tal'doren ritual that pacified their cousins, giving them back the ability to speak Common and/or not attack anything that moves - but the length of time and the more pronounced effect of the Pack form on them would make it so they could no longer change forms. Their physical form would be more canine than their counterparts - larger, bulkier, perhaps more hunched, with larger claws and fangs. More physically imposing but less versatile overall - unable to be Warlocks, Mages, or Priests due to their lack of focus and martial bent.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
Screw Lightforged or any kind of Alliance Undead, all I want is an Undead variant with no rotting. Whether that be the briefly teased Sanlayn, Dark Ranger or even something like Nathanos. The Nathanos Human style Undead is more likely at this point, since there are already two races using the High Elf model.
Hmm I had not considered this before but your mention of the Drust has me thinking they would be a more interesting (to me) AR for the Forsaken than Sanlayns or the theoretical Holy Undead (for the Horde). I think the Gorak Tul/Waycrest Manor art aesthetic would fit in with the Forsaken. Something like Lord and Lady Waycrest or maybe the female would be like the witches. Get that blue/black ghost/skeleton kind of combination to look different enough from Lodaeron Forsakens but also avoid the wickerman look so as to not step on the toes of the KulTiran Druid forms?
I picture the wicker-golems from the area, fused with the Drust souls from Thros.
I wonder the sheer amount of rage that will happen if Horde get the human model like Alliance got the blood elf model (didn't see as much rage about this: guessing it's because despite being most played, Horde Fanboys aren't attached to Elves the way Ally is Humans)
I wish the Horde got more in that area to learn about. I'm not going to create an Ally toon to learn it in game but I have really little idea what is going on on the KT side of the story.
I don't have any interest in more elves or humans and definitely not a "less" corpsey looking Undead as the AR counterpart to the Forsaken.
If others are then more power too them. For me if you want to play a Human or human adjacent Elf there are 3 definite contenders (maybe 4 if you count the non-wolf Worgens but who really thinks about that?) before a toned down version of the only playable zombies.
So I am not keen on Holy Undeads or Nathanos-all-but-human-with-glowy-eyes undead (damn I guess it's 5 counting Human DKs).
Sanlayns are also pretty dull, they could flesh them out a bit (snicker), but the Wrath style did not look super different from a Belf, so that would be a third form of Belf running around.
The proposed Nelf undeads from Darkshore also fall into this "too many elf" thing for me plus the story there is quite a stretch joining the Horde. I guess the Nelf undeads could be Alliance undeads but that whole thing really throws a wrench in Alliance revulsion of the Forsaken (DKs did this long ago too so I guess shrug?).
Somehow forming a bond with the Drust type undeads as they are an adversary of the Kul Tirans (right?) feels more logical. I guess ultimately that is another undead human type though like I said taking the Waycrest Lord and Lady as a blueprint they feel different enough from KulTirans.
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I should add, they have animations for mounting, jumping, monks, most weapon types, and so on. They actually have a very well-animated model, though not designed to be played. If they could somehow port the animations to a player-ready model, the majority of their work would be done.
I believe the last two Allied Race group match ups are.
(Alliance) The Redeemed Undead Lead by Calia Menethil Vs (Horde) Bloodmane Saberon lead by Leorajh
(Alliance) Rustbolt Junker Gnomes lead by Prince Erazmin Vs (Horde) Unshackled Gilblins lead by Neri Sharpfin
The Mogu were never fond of the Zandalari; they considered them weaklings and means to an end at every step.
Meanwhile, the Hozen are just straight-up allied with the Horde.
Tauren and Worgen have crouched postures too. The Hozen's default quadrupedal stance wouldn't be all that difficult to overcome, seeing as they can still wear all the requisite armor pieces, unlike Naga who have no realistic way to wear pants or boots, neverminding that female naga have four arms.Hozen have a crouched posture which makes armor design fitting onto them VERY difficult compared to other races. It's comparable to doing Naga or centaur. Thematically, there's also a lot less to do with the Hozen.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
Just wait, We will see Draenor Kilrathi i mean Khajiit Saberon as Worgen allied race, They already hate the Orcs, plus Alliance players will have another Furry race to counter Vulpera.
1. I think it's important to note that despite the Zandalari and Mogu both planning to backstab each other they never did in ancient times because of just how well they worked together back then.
2. One tribe of forest hozen with a leader named 'Chief Kah kah' joined the Horde, they're not well modeled for playable races, and don't contribute much to the ongoing narrative, and barely live past twenty lorewise. They work much better as a nonplayable comic relief 'buddy' race.
Think about it
Orcs-Mag'har ; Humans-Kul'tirans
Tauren-Highmountain ; Dwarves-Darkirons
Darkspear-Zandalari ; Draenei-Lightforged
Belfs-Nightborne ; Nelfs-Void Elves (Yeah nelfs were kinda cheated out of having a meaningful connection)
If the next rumors are correct about Goblins-Vulpera and Gnomes-Mechagnomes is true, then who does that leave?
Forsaken and Worgen, and MAYBE Pandaren.
Now Worgen or Tushui Pandaren can recruit Ankoan/Jinyu without too much work, Genn works with them in 8.2 apparently, and both Worgen/Ankoan are all about vengeance against a Queen they hate. Tushui can be friendly with Jinyu seamlessly.
But how would the Forsaken recruit Hozen? Riko and Kiryn shipping can only go so far. Huojin could recruit Hozen possibly, but the other problems still remain.
Mogu However? Mogu have spiritbinding magic and fleshshaping magic which would both be VERY useful to the Forsaken. Recruiting a typically villainous group like the Mogu would work much better for the Forsaken, especially since the Island expeditions revealed there's a bunch of mogu "Necrolords" around in hidden vaults.
3. No, neither tauren nor worgen are 'crouched' they have a hunched back, like orcs used to have and Darkspear and forsaken still do. MUCH easier to work with because it doesn't cause a mess with the legs.
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Whatever it ends up being, i just hope it isn't some form of undead elf, especially San'layn. I'm not sure Twilight is ready to be dethroned from the Throne of Cringe just yet, even if it would easily out-meme "human potential".
Personally, i'm hoping Saberon for horde, so we can get the whole Cats vs Dogs thing going.
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Sylvanas is what you get when you cross Joffrey Baratheon with a mary sue. Change my mind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯