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  1. 2019-05-21, 06:44 PM #1
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    Question Are The Factions Good? Evil? Both?!

    • What immediately comes to mind when I mention the Horde?
    • What about the Alliance?
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  2. 2019-05-21, 07:18 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by SushiSlicer View Post
    • What immediately comes to mind when I mention the Horde?
    • What about the Alliance?
    - Orcs, the color red, and an aspect of identity that has carried the game for 14 years

    - A lot of potential that Blizzard squanders every expansion
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  3. 2019-05-22, 07:38 AM #3
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    Horde is evil. Just straight up evil. Why it still exists is beyond me.

    Alliance is a human empire that serves human interests first and foremost at the expense of the other races. Why it still exists is beyond me.
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    One is chaotic stupid, the othe lawfull stupid.
    I'm an altoholic since 2005.
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  5. 2019-05-22, 09:44 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by SushiSlicer View Post
    • What immediately comes to mind when I mention the Horde?
    The GOOD guys.


    Quote Originally Posted by SushiSlicer View Post
    • What about the Alliance?
    The EVil faction: Humans, one Humans mage brought the orcs into this world, Orc-Enslavement-Camps, Illidan, Arthas and the Scourge.
    Why some people still believe these are the good guys is beyond me...
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  6. 2019-05-22, 11:51 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmamass View Post
    The GOOD guys.



    The EVil faction: Humans, one Humans mage brought the orcs into this world, Orc-Enslavement-Camps, Illidan, Arthas and the Scourge.
    Why some people still believe these are the good guys is beyond me...
    You forgot the 1st Cataclysm (highborne night elves), Azshara, the 1st return of Ragnaros (Dark Iron Dwarves), the 2nd (Druids of the Flame, night elves), the Scarlet Crusade (humans), Garithos...
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  7. 2019-05-22, 11:59 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eucep View Post
    One is chaotic stupid, the othe lawfull stupid.
    And we have the thread-winner comment.
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    Basically Stupid Good (Ally) vs. Stupid Evil (Horde). Why did writers decide to go this way after the far more nuanced approach of Vanilla-WotLK is mind-boggling.
    Quote Originally Posted by trimble View Post
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  9. 2019-05-22, 04:08 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eucep View Post
    One is chaotic stupid, the othe lawfull stupid.
    You sir, are a poet.
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    The alliance is good with a bit of grey the horde has been pitch black evil since cata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmamass View Post
    The GOOD guys.



    The EVil faction: Humans, one Humans mage brought the orcs into this world, Orc-Enslavement-Camps, Illidan, Arthas and the Scourge.
    Why some people still believe these are the good guys is beyond me...
    Arthas and illifan have never been alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    You forgot the 1st Cataclysm (highborne night elves), Azshara, the 1st return of Ragnaros (Dark Iron Dwarves), the 2nd (Druids of the Flame, night elves), the Scarlet Crusade (humans), Garithos...

    None of thoses are alliance.
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  11. 2019-05-22, 04:17 PM #11
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    What immediately comes to mind when I mention the Horde?
    Mud

    What about the Alliance?
    A golden lion
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  12. 2019-05-22, 04:19 PM #12
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    Look at it this way: Alliance is Lawful Evil and the Horde is Neutral Evil.
    "Everything is a manifestation of your own free will, for better or for ill."
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    Horde: Red
    Alliance: Blue

    Really, they are the first things to come to mind.
    Regarding their alignment, Horde has been evil-good-evil-neutral-evil
    Alliance has been good-neutral-good-goody 2 shoes
    This world don't give us nothing. It be our lot to suffer... and our duty to fight back.
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    Gnomes are evil.
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    Horde is just straight up evil at this point and impossible to redeem.
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    Elves Bad. Orcs Bad. Forsaken Bad. All troll besides the Darkspear bad. Rest good.


    That said, if the Tauren are so good, then why did every beast race they share Kalimdor with hate them so much?
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    They are neither, they are just moronic.


    Formerly known as Arafal
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    Both have been source for evil. Both have been source for good.
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  19. 2019-05-22, 04:35 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eucep View Post
    One is chaotic stupid, the othe lawfull stupid.
    You did it! You broke down their philosophies to the bare essentials!
    For real though, how else can you define their actions? Maybe Blizzard is using their own RNG table to determine their actions...?
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  20. 2019-05-22, 04:37 PM #20
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    Factions are whatever the writers need them to be in order to create a story.
    Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.
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