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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    It's not. I've gone paintballing through all of highschool and an entire arena of simultaneous paintball shots pale in comparison to any firearm shot. If a person can't tell then they have never heard a gun shot, which I question what sort of training a legal gun owner went through.
    Maybe none. That was my point about the homeowner. I have never shot or used paintball guns. But other people on here who have, they said they can be loud as a small caliber firearm. Now, who am I to believe. You or them? And why you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daish View Post
    dont attack somebodies house/property then?
    Would you kill a man for painting your fence without your permission?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    I ultimately agree that the small details will matter; like the look of the paintball gun, some of them can very well resemble actual firearms. But here is where I'm confused:

    Did he approach them in person? Why if he thought his house was getting shot at?
    This goes back to the complete lack of detailed information on what happened.

    Did he walk out with a rifle in his hand, approach the group, exchange words, and then fire?
    Did he walk out the door and immediately open fire?
    Or was it somewhere in between?

    So many key aspects of the encounter are missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krastyn View Post
    This goes back to the complete lack of detailed information on what happened.

    Did he walk out with a rifle in his hand, approach the group, exchange words, and then fire?
    Did he walk out the door and immediately open fire?
    Or was it somewhere in between?

    So many key aspects of the encounter are missing.
    Indeed. We can really only skim at the situation and its outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minteK917 View Post
    Yeah its an hillarious country to watch. Here the old guy walks out and yell git off my lawn you little twirp. In the US their gun boner is so big, guy walks out, start shooting at someones car lmao. Country full of no fucking balls, even an eldery woman in other first world countries go outside without a gun to tell people to piss off.
    Come to america Keyboard warrior and run that sweet mouth here and you will find out about no balls.. I bet you have nvr left your 3rd world shithole anyhow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Would you kill a man for painting your fence without your permission?
    Would you kill someone whose dog pooped on your lawn when they got to pick it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Would you kill a man for painting your fence without your permission?
    Try to argue honestly, is that what happened? Someone was painting a fence and home owner came out and shot him? It's not even remotely the same thing. It's sad when people stoop to silly arguments to make a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I am betting he will get charged based on the limited info.
    There is VERY little chance that he will be charged. Out of all the "I thought he was armed" or "feared for my safety" excuses, a group of people actually shooting at your house with stuff that look like guns is a very passable one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenarific View Post
    Come to america Keyboard warrior and run that sweet mouth here and you will find out about no balls.. I bet you have nvr left your 3rd world shithole anyhow....
    Many of my friends live in the United shit of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Yes, I have seen them...and some do look quite realistic...without the Hopper and CO2 tank. But since the gun is useless with those things...we can safely assume they were present. They also don't sound like real guns when they are fired or when the paintball impacts with a solid surface. I expect a gun owner knows what a gun sounds like.
    So far from what has been reported there have been at least three paintball guns present. Can you confirm that none of them looked at any way realistic at 11:30 pm from a distance? I'm guessing not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    What I am against is irresponsible gun owners killing kids.
    Which is something that didn't happen here. No kids were killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenarific View Post
    Come to america Keyboard warrior and run that sweet mouth here and you will find out about no balls.. I bet you have nvr left your 3rd world shithole anyhow....
    Compared to most Western nations, the US is far closer to being a 3rd world country.

    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Try to argue honestly, is that what happened? Someone was painting a fence and home owner came out and shot him? It's not even remotely the same thing. It's sad when people stoop to silly arguments to make a point.
    A paintball gun is not even remotely a real gun either. It does not sound like a real gun either. If you have a firearm, you should have some practice with it, and you would absolutely be able to tell a gunshot from a paintball gun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krastyn View Post
    So far from what has been reported there have been at least three paintball guns present. Can you confirm that none of them looked at any way realistic at 11:30 pm from a distance? I'm guessing not.
    You can absolutely tell by sound that no actual firearm was present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faithbane View Post
    There is VERY little chance that he will be charged. Out of all the "I thought he was armed" or "feared for my safety" excuses, a group of people actually shooting at your house with stuff that look like guns is a very passable one.
    Shooting at someones car is what I think will get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    I cant even legally kill myself but someone who kills a teenager can get off scot free? Sounds fucked.
    It really does depend on context. But there are, absolutely, certain conditions under which someone should get off scot-free.

    A paintball gun is easy enough to confuse with a real gun, making it perfectly plausible that the guy believed he was acting in self defence against a real threat to his life and those of his family members. Given that a person died, there needs to be an investigation, and it is entirely possible that the facts may tell another story, in which case there would be more severe consequences. But taken at face value, this does seem to me like a case in which the father does not deserve to be criminally convicted.

    That's not to say that America's gun culture isn't a significant contributor to this problem. But you can't blame the individual for that particular context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Compared to most Western nations, the US is far closer to being a 3rd world country.
    Only in big inner cities that allow gang members to kill each other. Rural areas are really nice, it's nice to have a big home and not live in a 1 bedroom flat with crazy rent prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Shooting at someones car is what I think will get him.
    Unless the evidence shows someone in the car was shooting at him or his son at the same time. Even if it was only a paintball gun. It was dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Unless the evidence shows someone in the car was shooting at him or his son at the same time. Even if it was only a paintball gun. It was dark.
    If that did happen, then yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Only in big inner cities that allow gang members to kill each other. Rural areas are really nice, it's nice to have a big home and not live in a 1 bedroom flat with crazy rent prices.
    Do you think gang violence is the definition of a 3rd world country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Unless the evidence shows someone in the car was shooting at him or his son at the same time. Even if it was only a paintball gun. It was dark.
    The guy still deserves to rot in prison. Typical American attitude though. I am just waiting for people like yourself to support reality tv game shows involving shooting up elementary schools for prizes. I'm sure you would be first in line.
    When in doubt. Derp it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Do you think gang violence is the definition of a 3rd world country?
    Well you can't be talking about poverty, we do pretty well. What makes you think this place is close to a 3rd world country? It's a statement born out of ignorance, probably by people who never been outside their city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    A paintball gun is not even remotely a real gun either. It does not sound like a real gun either. If you have a firearm, you should have some practice with it, and you would absolutely be able to tell a gunshot from a paintball gun.

    You can absolutely tell by sound that no actual firearm was present.
    I love how you can know with such absolute certainty, given the limited amount of information you have, exactly how the person perceived the situation.

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