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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Shooting at someones car is what I think will get him.
    Unless the evidence shows someone in the car was shooting at him or his son at the same time. Even if it was only a paintball gun. It was dark.
    " America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Unless the evidence shows someone in the car was shooting at him or his son at the same time. Even if it was only a paintball gun. It was dark.
    If that did happen, then yeah.

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Only in big inner cities that allow gang members to kill each other. Rural areas are really nice, it's nice to have a big home and not live in a 1 bedroom flat with crazy rent prices.
    Do you think gang violence is the definition of a 3rd world country?
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  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Unless the evidence shows someone in the car was shooting at him or his son at the same time. Even if it was only a paintball gun. It was dark.
    The guy still deserves to rot in prison. Typical American attitude though. I am just waiting for people like yourself to support reality tv game shows involving shooting up elementary schools for prizes. I'm sure you would be first in line.
    When in doubt. Derp it out.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Do you think gang violence is the definition of a 3rd world country?
    Well you can't be talking about poverty, we do pretty well. What makes you think this place is close to a 3rd world country? It's a statement born out of ignorance, probably by people who never been outside their city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    A paintball gun is not even remotely a real gun either. It does not sound like a real gun either. If you have a firearm, you should have some practice with it, and you would absolutely be able to tell a gunshot from a paintball gun.

    You can absolutely tell by sound that no actual firearm was present.
    I love how you can know with such absolute certainty, given the limited amount of information you have, exactly how the person perceived the situation.

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    What's the point of debating something with no details. Thread should just be locked unless OP cleans this shit up. It's like trying to determine fault of a car crash you never saw.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Well you can't be talking about poverty, we do pretty well. What makes you think this place is close to a 3rd world country? It's a statement born out of ignorance, probably by people who never been outside their city.
    Actually, the US has a very high poverty rate.

    https://qz.com/879092/the-us-doesnt-...loped-country/

    This puts it in an easy-to-read format which you'll need, otherwise just follow the source and compare the US to actual developed nations on the OECD website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    I love how you can know with such absolute certainty, given the limited amount of information you have, exactly how the person perceived the situation.
    I have a hard time seeing a scenario where a paintbull gun can be mistaken for an actual gun.
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    Oh btw, reported, you replied faster than the run time of the video.

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Try to argue honestly, is that what happened? Someone was painting a fence and home owner came out and shot him? It's not even remotely the same thing. It's sad when people stoop to silly arguments to make a point.
    Duh...PAINTBALLS. They wanted to repaint his fence. Brushes just happened to look like guns.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Actually, the US has a very high poverty rate.

    https://qz.com/879092/the-us-doesnt-...loped-country/

    This puts it in an easy-to-read format which you'll need, otherwise just follow the source and compare the US to actual developed nations on the OECD website.
    Kids who live in poverty are taken care of through social programs. There is a reason people are risking their life to come to the US and not the other way around.

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Flurryfang View Post
    Shooting to scare have a higher possiblity of getting you killed, if people are actually trying to kill you. If you are not 100% sure, that they are trying to kill you, you should atleast shoot into the air once or twice to see if they are gonna run away.
    Firing a gun into the air is reckless, dangerous, and in the vast majority of cases, illegal. What goes up, must come down.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    It really does depend on context. But there are, absolutely, certain conditions under which someone should get off scot-free.

    A paintball gun is easy enough to confuse with a real gun, making it perfectly plausible that the guy believed he was acting in self defence against a real threat to his life and those of his family members. Given that a person died, there needs to be an investigation, and it is entirely possible that the facts may tell another story, in which case there would be more severe consequences. But taken at face value, this does seem to me like a case in which the father does not deserve to be criminally convicted.

    That's not to say that America's gun culture isn't a significant contributor to this problem. But you can't blame the individual for that particular context.

    I've played enough paintball to know murdering someone who shoots one at you isnt justified.

  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by Collegeguy View Post
    What's the point of debating something with no details. Thread should just be locked unless OP cleans this shit up. It's like trying to determine fault of a car crash you never saw.
    The red car was at fault. Prove me wrong.
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  14. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Kids who live in poverty are taken care of through social programs. There is a reason people are risking their life to come to the US and not the other way around.
    https://data.oecd.org/inequality/pov...ndicator-chart

    You're outranked in poverty by Israel, Costa Rica and South Africa, congrats. That includes kids, adults and the elderly. If you had PROPER social programs, this might not have been the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Do you think gang violence is the definition of a 3rd world country?
    Nope. Since gangs exists in most countries to some degree. A lot of people, like myself, could not care less what others in countries classify us as. Many of us wish more felt like we were not a place many want to immigrate to.
    " America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
    - Abraham Lincoln
    The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
    – George Washington.

  16. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by LiiLoSNK View Post
    The red car was at fault. Prove me wrong.
    I blame the nazis.

  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    https://data.oecd.org/inequality/pov...ndicator-chart

    You're outranked in poverty by Israel, Costa Rica and South Africa, congrats. That includes kids, adults and the elderly. If you had PROPER social programs, this might not have been the case.
    And most of the poverty is in innercities control by a party that favors to distribute wealth and keep people poor. You do realize nation bashing is against the forum rules right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    And most of the poverty is in innercities control by a party that favors to distribute wealth and keep people poor. You do realize nation bashing is against the forum rules right?
    Facts aren't bashing, too bad.
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    Oh btw, reported, you replied faster than the run time of the video.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Acelius View Post
    Facts aren't bashing, too bad.
    You're slamming the US in a thread about gun violence, you cherry pick your facts and don't understand reality. You judge a country you never even been to.

  20. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    You're slamming the US in a thread about gun violence, you cherry pick your facts and don't understand reality. You judge a country you never even been to.
    Yeah, okay then
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    Oh btw, reported, you replied faster than the run time of the video.

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