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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    I might be kind of ignorant on the topic of African tribes.
    Do they also practice Voodoo and have Bokor?
    African influence manifests in BfA Zandalari because Blizzard wanted to ripoff Black Panther for progressive points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantypops View Post
    I always felt like orcs had characteristics from Turkish history. For Tolkien, Osgiliath = Constantinople (captured/destroyed), Minas Tirith = Vienna (resisted), you could also say that the good guys working together reflects Europe in those ages. Similarly for Warcraft, Stormwind sacked under strong leadership and Lordaeron resisted because of conflicts within the Horde. In both cases the invaders are visually distinct, barbaric in culture, considered evil... and coming from *surprise* the east. Both cases have ties with wolves, which is still an icon in modern Turkey.
    What turkish characteristics would that be? The analogy with Osgiliath and Minas Tirith makes no sense at all.

    Tolkien's Orcs are not based on any specific culture, they are mythological creatures that represent (like the Elves they come from, who resemble humanity at it's best) aspects of human society. Orcs are Humans at it lowest, without culture or any sense of community, driven not even by animalistic instincts, but hatred for themselves and even more hatred for everything that is harmonic and beautiful, since they are not able to create or enjoy anything nice themselves. They are miserable and because of that they want everything else to suffer as well. Anything that doesn't bring them satisfaction, they want to destroy and so they destroy everything.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Brewshine View Post
    They seem more of a mix of mongal /Viking
    The Warsong are straight up Mongolian Horde but exchange horses for wolves.

    Orcs draw from most famous tribal societies across the world

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by LuminaL View Post
    I think WoW Orcs are more based on African tribal culture specially with the pre cata structure.
    Orcs were in wow lore descriped as nomandic raiders(originally draenor) were strong can take the charge of a clan and the first and second wars can take pararels from mongol empires conquest so their culture is more of central asian steppes with tengri religion.

    As even what orcs mainly ate is closese to mongolian tribe steppes.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    African influence manifests in BfA Zandalari because Blizzard wanted to ripoff Black Panther for progressive points.
    It was always there but you're right about them doubling down on it for WAKANDA 4EVAH points.
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    People just want to be bullies without facing any sort of consequences or social fallout for being a bully. If you declare X as a racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. person you can say or do whatever you want to them, ignoring the fact that they are a human.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    I might be kind of ignorant on the topic of African tribes.
    Do they also practice Voodoo and have Bokor?
    The term "voodoo" comes from West African Vodun, a religion from Benin, Togo, Ghana, and Nigeria. Loa/Lwa are revered in Vodun. The term "voodoo" is a watered down version from Louisiana, much like Haitian Vodou, Dominican Vudú, Puerto Rican Vudú, Cuban Vodú, and Brazilian Vodum. Versions of Vodun spread across the Caribbean due to West African slaves being traded there, where language barriers between different tribes wound up creating new terms as listed before. Modern versions of Caribbean Vodun/voodoo are more Christian inspired, with Carnival (in much of the Caribbean/South America/Africa) being inspired from voodoo and Christian imagery and beliefs.

    Mesoamerican cultures had similar beliefs, but it was not Vodun. Many cultures had their own animal/spirit worship, things like masks (like Vejigante masks of the Taino in Puerto Rico), and even spiritual dances. But, Mesoamerican cultures didn't call any of their spirits/gods "Loa/Lwa" at all. All Troll cultures in WoW are a mix between African and South American cultures, much like the Caribbean is now in real life. That's why they have their accents, masks, buildings, etc - though the Zandalari have much more Aztec/Mayan buildings and clothing, with more African-inspired accents.
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    or JK rowling describing the details of her charecters we do not need to know...
    Neville Longbottom’s foot fetish is important canon.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by mich4el View Post
    I have to disagree. Trolls seem to fit the african tribal culture
    clearly the infrastructure is based on the pre-Columbian empires! They are religiously based on the voodoo! that is not an African religion is a syncretic religion born in america with African spiritists element and Christianity

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by LuminaL View Post
    I think WoW Orcs are more based on African tribal culture specially with the pre cata structure.
    based on vikings/higlander clans more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    A lot of knowledge
    Thank you, kind Destinas
    This is certainly quite a good bit of information
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  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Soimu View Post
    based on vikings/higlander clans more likely.
    some clans are, like the frost wolves and the lightning's blade clans, the thing is that blizzard changes the influence from clan to clan or tribe to tribe.

    like zandalari are african/aztec inspired while the darkspear are Caribbean inspired, then you have NE who're a mix of east asian and celtic nature worship.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Shelly View Post
    Here I thought they were created by the poor copyright laws that didn't allow Games Workshop to sue Blizzard for publishing a Warhammer licensed game that failed to get the license.
    Nah your right.

    Btw warhammer orks is tha best orks specially the 40k ones not only are they extremely good at waging wars as that what they are made too do and impossible to remove once they get down too a planet anything less than a exterminatus and they will continue too pop up, but they got the best sens of humor of any orks in any setting. Best characters too like Tuska daemon killa for example.
    Do you hear the voices too?

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    That Tolkien based the shire on a village in the area? Nothing there talks about berserkers or anything.
    Yep, that's the extent of my 2 minute search.

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