Patch 8.1.5 Hotfixes - May 24th, 2019, Blue Posts, Classic “Not A Bug” List Additions

[Sensa1]

I love these "not a bug lists". "Vanilla" champions were clearly expecting some sort of "classic" game feel with all the new and improved quality of life features and graphics and everything else the new expansions have brought.

I had some good times in Vanilla, but I have no desire to live in the past.

The Beta was limited to active subscribers. The % of active subscribers who actually played Vanilla and actually got a Beta invite is likely extremely small. Thus, there is a high likelihood that many of these Bug reports are being generated by players that never played Vanilla.

I also don't know who these Vanilla Champions you refer to are but it was clear from the get go that Classic wasn't going to have the QoL features you reference.

All this list does demonstrate, conclusively, is how much hand holding goes on in the current game compared to Vanilla and how much the player base has been spoiled as a result of having everything handed to them on a silver platter (glowing quest objectives etc etc).

The next Not a Bug list will probably contain these statements:

"Aggroing numerous mobs and dying often while levelling is intended"
"Having to use CC on every pack of mobs in a dungeon is intended"
"Waiting for your Warrior to get 3 sunders on mobs before you begin dpsing is intended"

[babyback]

It's getting more and more obvious that Blizzard has it's fair share or irony here and is making whole WoW Classic thing with kind of "in your face" attitude.

P.S. has anyone reported having to harvest same node/herb multiple times as a bug yet?

Fun things I’ve heard that people have reported are getting critted while sitting and the warrior health regen.

[Monster Hunter]

I'm not sure why stuff like this has to be replicated, it just looks extremely unfinished and has no gameplay impact if it would be given a proper animation.

thats vanilla, it was always admitted vanilla was unfinished in a lot of ways, small dev team and time constraints back then but thats what they want. tbh cant see the attraction myself.

[Mintra]

I'm waiting for "Server maintenance on wednesday till 5pm is not a bug" announcement )))

[Easo]

Keep the salt coming, things like these will really weed out those who actually DO want the classic with all it's flaws from those riding the... hypewave? Not sure what, but the other thing, in short.

[Cavox]

I'm not sure why stuff like this has to be replicated, it just looks extremely unfinished and has no gameplay impact if it would be given a proper animation.

Ask the NO CHANGES crowd. I don't know what was so bad about AoE looting or improved graphics as well.

[Clozer]

Ask the NO CHANGES crowd. I don't know what was so bad about AoE looting or improved graphics as well.

it starts with minor changes and then opens up the discussion for more and more changes. It worked back in vanilla so you are save to not change anything.

[Triggered Fridgekin]

Not a bug but is there a threshold in regards to the graphics when it comes to presets? On a whim I wanted to see what preset 10 looked like but it seems to have very little changes when compared to lower presets unless I totally bottom it out to 1. Are they digging deep and disabling DX11/12 so it's reverting back to the old Ultra preset as the max setting?

[Clozer]

That is just the "Slippery slope" argument, and it is an incredibly weak one at that, especially as Blizzard are discussing maybe expanding upon Classic down the line.

Keep to the argument of "Classic is a replication of Vanilla, warts and all" as the argument, it makes more sense, and is less ridiculous.

#nochanges

seriously any discussion about changes is redundant.

[Smeller]

That is just the "Slippery slope" argument, and it is an incredibly weak one at that, especially as Blizzard are discussing maybe expanding upon Classic down the line.

Some ppl in the dev team said maybe in an interview while the lead developer said no. So who do we trust more in this case?

[CataclismicSunrise]

i love these. so much nostalgia. can't wait to play again.

[Starscream101]

Well i can see that Essences is going to flop so hard the way you get them and what they do people will be you dont got that Essences we not take you in pvp or pve you dont got it why take you like they did in legion oh your weapon is not unlocked lvl 50 dont take them it is going to flop and some of them is way OP for some classes and super bad for others.

[Nobleshield]

I'm not sure why stuff like this has to be replicated, it just looks extremely unfinished and has no gameplay impact if it would be given a proper animation.

#nOcHaNgeS herp derp.

Blame those people who shouted down anything even remotely suggested (and still do for things that don't impact gameplay and would just be replicated with addons anyway). If not for their (now showing to be mostly wrong) desire to have a museum piece we might have actually gotten an improved game that would be more than just an official private server.

[dranlord]

Well i can see that Essences is going to flop so hard the way you get them and what they do people will be you dont got that Essences we not take you in pvp or pve you dont got it why take you like they did in legion oh your weapon is not unlocked lvl 50 dont take them it is going to flop and some of them is way OP for some classes and super bad for others.

LOL outside competitive Mythic raiding or hight durngons or Rbg or hight ratting arenas, that never happen, if you want to be competive you need to fill some criteria.

Is the way life work dude, you cant have aceess to everythign with working for it, Essences right now on the ptr (outside some particular ones) are obtain doing the activity related to it, so you can more reward base on you skill

[EyelessCrow]

#nOcHaNgeS herp derp.

Blame those people who shouted down anything even remotely suggested (and still do for things that don't impact gameplay and would just be replicated with addons anyway). If not for their (now showing to be mostly wrong) desire to have a museum piece we might have actually gotten an improved game that would be more than just an official private server.

Just admit you don't want classic. Admit it. You think live is sooooooo terrible but you want the mechanics of live in a vanilla environment...which in and of itself is no longer vanilla. You act like people who want no changes are the dumb ones... I personally don't care either way. You two bickering over this stuff is the exact reason why blizz didn't want to do this in the first place and I won't be surprised when those servers "die" fairly quickly

[Powerogue]

The no changes crowd will sing another tune once it's actually released, if OSRS is anything to go by, we'll have a new "classic expansion" worth of content within 3 years.

[Drusin]

Ask the NO CHANGES crowd. I don't know what was so bad about AoE looting

-scene: top of the hill in valley of the four winds

me: gathers up goats and kills them all, right clicks and aoe loots, begins to skin mobs (why I'm here)
faggot: comes up and starts skinning my shit too

Where is my aoe skinning blizz?

or improved graphics

This is just perference for me. The old ghost wolf model and my old troll model is what I know and love, I don't give two fucks about pixel count.

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The no changes crowd will sing another tune once it's actually released

Guess we'll see, plan on leveling as H Pal in classic and I was quite happy right clicking a mob and then talking in chat because I have no attacks (during stress test) I plan on playing the next stress test too and right clicking mobs and talking in chat again lol

[Starscream101]

LOL outside competitive Mythic raiding or hight durngons or Rbg or hight ratting arenas, that never happen, if you want to be competive you need to fill some criteria.

Is the way life work dude, you cant have aceess to everythign with working for it, Essences right now on the ptr (outside some particular ones) are obtain doing the activity related to it, so you can more reward base on you skill

I seen the Essences on PTR and seen how you get them all I am saying is if your going to put skills in the game you do not put skills behind a gate in a MMORPG like WoW. I PvP a lot but i know people who never will pvp and never turned on warmode once in BFA and they never will and they never will get Speakers boon I all so know people who only do raid finder and will never get to do a Normal raid and never get Condensed Life-Force. I do not mind putting gear behind a gate like mythic dungeons and raids because that is gear. Skills on the other hand I have a problem with putting them behind a gate. Skills should not be behind a gate. That is just the way I fell about it. Because if you do not do that type of activity you are at a disadvantage because i PvP and you do not or I Raid and you do not. There is a very fine line that blizzard is crossing with this when they start to gate a skill and it will turn people off.

[Alkizon]

I do not mind putting gear behind a gate like mythic dungeons and raids because that is gear. Skills on the other hand I have a problem with putting them behind a gate. Skills should not be behind a gate. That is just the way I fell about it. Because if you do not do that type of activity you are at a disadvantage because i PvP and you do not or I Raid and you do not. There is a very fine line that blizzard is crossing with this when they start to gate a skill and it will turn people off.

True... true...

[vashe9]

fun to see all these people screaming " no changes " reporting bugs that are not bugs but "features" XD