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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    Yes. Gurubashi had little history with high elves.

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    All trolls respect Zul’Jin (at least all Darkspear trolls), thats even in their warcry. And by proxy they must hate/dislike high elfs.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by VladlTutushkin View Post
    All trolls respect Zul’Jin (at least all Darkspear trolls), thats even in their warcry. And by proxy they must hate/dislike high elfs.
    Do you think Zekhan would make elf stew out of Lor'themar and EAT him if given the opportunity? I think it would add some much-needed internal conflict to the Horde that doesn't boil down to CURRENT WARCHIEF BAD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladlTutushkin View Post
    All trolls respect Zul’Jin (at least all Darkspear trolls), thats even in their warcry. And by proxy they must hate/dislike high elfs.
    Funny, considering the Darkspear fought against Zul'jin. And the Amani.

    Twice.


    That war cry is fucking retarded
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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Funny, considering the Darkspear fought against Zul'jin. And the Amani.

    Twice.


    That war cry is fucking retarded
    Not any dumber than newly leveled Nightborne coming back to find Suramar under demon occupation. Or Mag'har traveling back in time to AU Draenor to kill their ancestors. Or Zandalari coming back to Zandalar and getting exiled to Vol'dun not a minute later. Or Garrosh coming back from the bowels of the Shadowlands to call Sylvanas a bitch.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Or Garrosh coming back from the bowels of the Shadowlands to call Sylvanas a bitch.
    Who wouldnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Not any dumber than newly leveled Nightborne coming back to find Suramar under demon occupation. Or Mag'har traveling back in time to AU Draenor to kill their ancestors. Or Zandalari coming back to Zandalar and getting exiled to Vol'dun not a minute later. Or Garrosh coming back from the bowels of the Shadowlands to call Sylvanas a bitch.
    At least there is now a chance for his twin brother to do that.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    At least there is now a chance for his twin brother to do that.
    I would prefer heavenscream defending Baine into some poor piss trial and calling Anduin racist because he is very unnerving around the holy orcs, man the irony of the second would be so delicious.
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    No, she is my waifu. Stop posting and delete this thread immediately.
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    Voted Baine because... Well, Baine. Total nonsensical character, looks like World War II Italy, nobody really understands what role he's supposed to fill, not even himself

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Funny, considering the Darkspear fought against Zul'jin. And the Amani.

    Twice.


    That war cry is fucking retarded
    and what is your point? All troll tribes feared and respected Vol'jin. you can respect an enemy.
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  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    That war cry is fucking retarded
    It's a leftover from early Warcraft 3 development where the Forest Trolls rejoined the Horde rather than Jungle Trolls.

    That they just copied it into WoW for some reason is nonsense, but that's just how it is.

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    Retarded is what blizzard did to the amani and zul'jin, vengeance for him indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    and what is your point? All troll tribes feared and respected Vol'jin. you can respect an enemy.
    You can respect an Enemy without a war cry that says that you are, at that point, willing to give you life for that person or to avenge them.
    Even when you were responsible for killing them

    The warcry should've been changed to "For Vol'jin" long ago.
    Specially after Legion
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  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    You can respect an Enemy without a war cry that says that you are, at that point, willing to give you life for that person or to avenge them.
    Even when you were responsible for killing them

    The warcry should've been changed to "For Vol'jin" long ago.
    Specially after Legion
    I wouldn't look too much into it. The Blood Elves still go "The dark times have passed" and "Remember the Sunwell" despite both of these having already happened. And the jokes about the Forsaken lines come the next expansion write themselves.

    Besides, why wouldn't you want vengeance for Zul'jin. He did nothing wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    I wouldn't look too much into it. The Blood Elves still go "The dark times have passed" and "Remember the Sunwell" despite both of these having already happened. And the jokes about the Forsaken lines come the next expansion write themselves.

    Besides, why wouldn't you want vengeance for Zul'jin. He did nothing wrong.
    Wether we like Zul'jin or not, the warcry and several other voicelines for each race are horribly outdated
    This world don't give us nothing. It be our lot to suffer... and our duty to fight back.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Besides, why wouldn't you want vengeance for Zul'jin. He did nothing wrong.
    Unless we count being stupid as wrong.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Unless we count being stupid as wrong.
    His heart was in the right place.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    His heart was in the right place.
    Well, if his heart wasn't full of hate for elves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted.

    But that "Lordaeron sightseeing tour (Capital city excluded)" he took the Horde on was been amazing.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Well, if his heart wasn't full of hate for elves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted.

    But that "Lordaeron sightseeing tour (Capital city excluded)" he took the Horde on was been amazing.
    To be fair to Zul'jin, he was just going after what was in his interest, sure he played himself in the process where if he had helped out Orgrim in Lordaeron he'd be drinking martinis from the skulls of elves instead of getting killed by canonical loot-obsessed murder hobos, but you can't say he didn't have a reason to be salty at elves. Being a bit slow is par for the course for a character in Warcraft.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    We all fell in love with Zappyboi in the BFA cinematic for his sick lightning move, but Blizz didn't put him anywhere in the questing or war campaign up until the Saurfang bit where he... shows up out of nowhere in the middle of redridge, no explanation for who he is or how he got there ingame.


    What do you hope Blizz does with him next?

    Personally, I'd have Zekhan work on recruiting from other troll tribes to bolster the Horde forces that oppose Sylvanas, but also to stand up to fringe Alliance forces in EK.

    Ex: Alliance wins the Battle for Stromgarde and start wiping out both the Horde and Witherbark / Ogre forces in Arathi, so Zekhan and the Revantusk evacuate everyone to Hammerfall and then into the mountains to get to the Revantusk in hinterlands.


    Well, both the Witherbark AND Crushridge Ogres are hostile to the Horde AND Alliance, and have been for quite some time. I'm pretty sure the Horde in Hammerfell either evacuated or fortified upon the defeat over at... What is that new Horde base called, Angermall?
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    I think your problem is a lack of intellect.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    but you can't say he didn't have a reason to be salty at elves.
    No, but he's just that, another Troll character that throws any rational thought aside when even the chance of vengeance against [Mortal enemy] is on the table.

    Jintha fell into the same hole, despite that, Forest Trolls named a city after him, which implies that they're not even learning and actually revere those fools.

    Obviously, one can complain that basically any Troll tribe besides the playable ones has become nothing more than a punching bag, but that's another story.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Well, both the Witherbark AND Crushridge Ogres are hostile to the Horde AND Alliance, and have been for quite some time. I'm pretty sure the Horde in Hammerfell either evacuated or fortified upon the defeat over at... What is that new Horde base called, Angermall?
    There's no canon victor yet so no action by hammerfall atm, and yes, everyone knows they're hostile NOW, but you didn't address that this is a proposal about what to do later
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