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    Chinese students make farewell messages amid crackdowns

    They slapped him until blood streamed from his nose. They jammed headphones into his ears and played hours of propaganda at full volume.

    On the last day, he alleges, they had him bend over a table naked and spread his buttocks, joking darkly that they would teach him how to insert a listening device.

    “This all happened on campus,” Qiu Zhanxuan seethes in the video he recorded in February after he said the police released him, temporarily, after a four-day ordeal.

    “If I disappear,” he adds, “it’ll be because of them.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...48e_story.html


    The irony is these students are Marxists. There's a small club of Marxist students at Beijing University that the Chinese regime is trying to shut down.

    Do you think the Chinese regime trying to suppress a Marxist movement is ironic?
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    oh look, another ignorant tool that knows nothing about Karl Marx

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    I wish the west would grow a spine and collectively push China into opening it's market.

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    No, I think you gravely misinterpret the entire issue. For China it's simply about control, the same with any government including the U.S which is all about the free market and capitalism.

    However putting limits on monopolies for example don't seem to go against any of those principles in theory, although I would argue it could. The point being is this is about control, the way any group, government or organization works, or doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varitok View Post
    I wish the west would grow a spine and collectively push China into opening it's market.
    Not when Capitalism has been in bed with China for so long, exploiting cheap labour and poor regulations there for profit. It's ironic when people with good intentions use mass-produced Made in China products too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varitok View Post
    I wish the west would grow a spine and collectively push China into opening it's market.
    Like Cuba, or Venezuela or Iran?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    Why? To exploit it? China already had bad experience with that, see Opium Wars. West wants to cause unrest in China to come in and rob the shit out of them.
    Or to improve the economy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity91 View Post
    oh look, another ignorant tool that knows nothing about Karl Marx
    this /10char

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    Nothing about China is marxist.

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    Another hour, another hubcap China thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Nothing about China is marxist.
    Funny how that keeps happening when someone tries to implement Marxist ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    Why? To exploit it? China already had bad experience with that, see Opium Wars. West wants to cause unrest in China to come in and rob the shit out of them. That's what west does - steal everything they can and cause misery. Africa is a shithole, Middle East is a shithole, South America is a shithole, all exploited heavily by US and major European countries (and some by USSR), causing misery everywhere. They want China to become shithole too after stealing everything.

    Chinese are doing smart thing by limiting access to western propaganda. Western politicians and corporations are butthurt about it and make fake news to make it look like there is some unrest in China. Kind of what US is accusing Russia of doing. But I guess since its US that does it, its a good thing, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    West wants to improve Chinese economy? That's funny. Its already improving much faster than any other country's economy. They produce everything they need. Opening it to west only means that western companies will compete with locals, while moving all profits outside of China.

    Opening market is beneficial only to west, not to China.
    Except opening the country's economy benefited China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    Why? To exploit it? China already had bad experience with that, see Opium Wars. West wants to cause unrest in China to come in and rob the shit out of them. That's what west does - steal everything they can and cause misery. Africa is a shithole, Middle East is a shithole, South America is a shithole, all exploited heavily by US and major European countries (and some by USSR), causing misery everywhere. They want China to become shithole too after stealing everything.

    Chinese are doing smart thing by limiting access to western propaganda. Western politicians and corporations are butthurt about it and make fake news to make it look like there is some unrest in China. Kind of what US is accusing Russia of doing. But I guess since its US that does it, its a good thing, right?
    Ah yes, democracy is western propaganda. Please, enough bullshit and whataboutism trying to defend an autocracy.
    You are not even getting paid to do the shilling, yet you do so. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Ooh look, another Hubcap-thread shitposting about China.

    Pro-tip: If die-hard capitalist media claims to be concerned about Marxists, just close the article and go do something productive with your time.


    So you are calling for war because you want to make profit over the backs of the Chinese people? How about fuck off?

    Oh lol, the local Trot thinks he knows anything.
    Go be a tankie somewhere else, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    No, I think you gravely misinterpret the entire issue.
    Hubcap threads in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    Funny how that keeps happening when someone tries to implement Marxist ideas.
    Cuba is still doing fine, so nah, it does not keep happening.
    I know its hard for you to understand what happens if a small group controlls a country, but maybe one day you will.

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    Yea, when you live under a communist regime and another type of communist regime wants to take hold the communists in power aren't friendly like capitalists are. That's why there's so many Marxists and lennenists on these forums, discord, etc; because they will never, ever take hold in a country that is already this deep into capitalism, like America. It's a far away pipe dream to the larpers that exist, for some weird ass reason, in gaming centric communities. Thank God Trump was elected. We're safe from civil war for at least 5 more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefolk View Post
    The irony is these students are Marxists. There's a small club of Marxist students at Beijing University that the Chinese regime is trying to shut down. Do you think the Chinese regime trying to suppress a Marxist movement is ironic?
    No it is not even surprising. In the Soviet revolution in Russia, the communists embraced all kinds of marginalized groups and subversive elements to ferment revolt. Once the revolt occurred and they were in charge, the first thing the communists did was purge the subversives that helped them into power. It would be like the far left in the United States championing gay rights or women's rights or immigrant rights until they spurred a revolt, overthrew the government and installed a communist dictatorship in its place, and then turning right around and murdering all the gays and illegals and stripping women of all their rights because they no longer need subversive ideas and instead need stability. The gays / illegals / women are used as pawns by the left and then fodder to be discarded once the objective is met.
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    Yep, it's national socialism capitalism, exactly~

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