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  1. #141
    I remember this very vividly. I listened to his podcast a bit during Wrath and couldn't stand what a pompous asshat he was. The only reason why I watched him on Youtube during 2010 was his coverage of the Cata Beta.

    I believe that he quit WoW for the same reason many other people did that were covering it intensely during Wrath: Beta Burnout. The guy literally played and talked about WoW every day for years.

    The fact that he would quit WoW due to previous NORMAL content being nerfed (he claimed to be a heroic raider) is just ridiculous. The guy quit for the same reasons other people quit, he was burnt out. He used the nerfs as yet another typical excuse from hardcore players to try and blame Blizzard for the fact that they were just tired of the game. It happens. I find it quite preposterous that something that didn't effect him personally would make him quit.

    The guy just wanted to expand his own little universe and branch out into other games. It was pretty pretentious for him to call himself a "consumer advocate" when all he wanted was to make money off of people watching his content.

    He did four distinct things that are quite unforgivable:

    He defended Ensidia when they CHEATED.

    He claimed to have quit WoW over nerfs (typical dumbing the game down hardcore excuse for burnout).

    He told someone to get cancer and die that mildly disagreed with him.

    He tried to label Gamergate as some sort of ethics in journalism debate (it was just revenge porn from some loser that couldn't keep his gf happy).

    That's his legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usagi Senshi View Post
    Yup, that was the also the video I unsubbed from him.

    He just wanted Elite Gatekeeping to stay in MMOs, simple as that and something I've always hated. Same with the edge lords on this forum that constantly parrot the same bullshit. Multiple difficulty curves is a far better solution, plus it isn't 1999-2007 anymore and time moves on as did the player base.

    Ironically he was also pretty shit in WoW too, which was pretty funny in contrast to that video.
    I agree 100%. He was an elitist prick that thought he was better than everybody. Then found whatever excuse he could muster to rage quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    You want to give examples or are you just gonna shit on him? Many did not like him but he did a lot for the gaming industry as a whole and you have to respect him for that. Everyone makes mistakes.
    My goodness. I hate it when people try to claim that this guy "did a lot for the gaming industry." He did nothing but try to profit off of consumer anger.

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynestra View Post
    I disagreed with him and I disagree now.

    After that video I stopped watching his content.

    Simple as that. I remember that video, and I remember vividly as he made the decision to stop playing wow I made the decision to stop watching his videos.

    I think legion raids were far better than anything in prior xpacs, and BoD has been pretty great so far, so.

    Having multiple levels of difficulties appeals to everyone.

    Having just one level leaves a larger portion of the player base unable to play in the penultimate content in wow, which is stupid business-wise, and it leaves the most hardcore yearning for something harder.

    Having multiple difficulties just makes sense, it allows everyone to experience these raids the wow team puts so much hard work into.
    I agree with you there. While I didn't stop watching TB's videos, I did disagree with him on that point. One area where WOW has always been strong is in dungeon and raid content. Legion had amazing raids. Heck, even WOD had great raids (the few that it had). BFA has great raids...the problem with BFA is not the dungeon/raid content, it's the utter lack of anything interesting to do in the world and the nonsensical story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusblood View Post
    *snip*
    He's not wrong about one thing with Wrath babies. To this day people still ask that Blizz add Mythic difficulty to LFG. Yeah, we know how well that turned out for Heroic. Let's not forget how Mythic is also an aoe-fest that Wrath dungeons were. It's one thing to be casual and another to be braindead.

    Cata (and later WoD*) had fixed that, but we both know TB wasn't satisfied anyway. The dude thrived on negativity, hence his new username after he left WoW.
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  4. #144
    It makes me sad that I lost all of my WoWRadio files. I found a lot of them since through torrents and the TB Google Drive link, but I'm still missing a ton.I don't think an actual full archive exists anymore.

    WoWRadio was the shit.

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    Well, he wasn't wrong.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by therealstegblob View Post
    The saddest thing on earth is someone trying to be smug even though they're wrong.

    You've never needed BiS gear to push high end content. It's simply not been true, regardless of whatever you 'remember'. Sure, maybe you remember other wrong people claiming you needed to have XXX piece of gear or whatever, but that doesn't mean it was right.

    If you think people in Cata were pushing world first races only after farming the 2h from archeology, then lolololololol.
    Haha, the only thing sad is how oblivious you are Or just the worlds worst troll... either way, keep replying, I find it quite funny to hear what you have to say.

    The point isn't that you had to have the gear to do the content; it's that a lot of raid leaders said you had to have it before raid time as a rule OR that a lot of raiders did it ANYWAYS, simply because they wanted to min max. It's cute that you're twisting a point and making a unique little hill to die on, though. Very entertaining conversation~

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    him and oxhorn were two of the earliest wow related content I watched on youtube. Was sad to hear of his passing. He left an impact on the wow community.
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  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by OopsReality View Post
    Haha, the only thing sad is how oblivious you are Or just the worlds worst troll... either way, keep replying, I find it quite funny to hear what you have to say.

    The point isn't that you had to have the gear to do the content; it's that a lot of raid leaders said you had to have it before raid time as a rule OR that a lot of raiders did it ANYWAYS, simply because they wanted to min max. It's cute that you're twisting a point and making a unique little hill to die on, though. Very entertaining conversation~
    The point is that objectively speaking, you didn't need to get BiS pre-raid gear. Just because some raider leaders would require it or some people "did it just because" of their own free will did not ever make it mandatory to do, just subjective.

    But yeah wow I'm a "troll". Ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei View Post
    Aggressive much?

    By "an entire expansion where you ran dungeons for rep" you mean wrath? The lfg tool only came with 3.3. before that, you had to manually look for people, on your server, which took a LOT of time. Nobody (or not many) farmed dungeons solely for rep.
    I'm also talking about doing the thing in it's time. If you dinged on the first or second day and you wanted to max out your reps asap, you did the dailies, and wore the tabard in dungeons obviously while you farmed gear or did your daily heroic. But you didn't farm dungeons day and night, there were no groups if you didn't have friends with similar aspirations and a lot of free time. And even if YOU had a lot of free time that didn't mean your realm or battlegroup had the same free time. like I said: group finder was often empty, you could clearly see how people's work shift ended/kids got home after school. It was not like today that you can find a group for pretty much anything, anytime. Especially on a smaller or mid pop realm.
    Sure, if you want to farm rep TODAY, you jsut head to the dungeons and kill stuff. But not in the first 1-2-3 months of Cata. It wasn't a thing. Players were flooding the daily areas.

    Care to show me your armory? You can see mine in my sig, you can see how I progressed in my reputations. Reps are always the FIRST for me in a new expansion/patch (lol not since Legion). So i kinda know a thing or two about rep farming.
    In wrath, you were lucky if you had 4-5 achievement hunter "hardcore" player on your whole realm. Achieves were new, and divided people as people started with different tasks. Before group finder, crossrealm groups, connected realms, and people playing so much less it was very hard to do group activities.
    I'm getting a fucking stroke from trying to read your posts so I'm just going to end this by saying: You're wrong. You're trying to argue subjective experience vs. objective situation. This argument is fucking stupid and I'm not responding to it anymore.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobleshield View Post
    I used to love TB's podcast and videos. Then he got incredibly whiny in Cata when he stopped, because they nerfed T11 when T12 came out, and he hadn't even done T11. But he made it out to be his huge "pandering to the casuals" sort of tryhard talk and I got soured on his "holier than thou" attitude towards everything.

    The main thing I find myself agreeing with him on was the idea that multiple viable raids per tier was an okay thing to have, rather than invalidating the previous tier when the newest tier came out.
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Someone may remember better, but yes, i know an awful lot of ppl who used to watch everything he released right up until the point where he said "this game is for casuals now, its catering to casuals and us hardcore players are ignored" and then when someone pointed out he had done almost no content at all, and was struggling to complete normal mode, he became extremely toxic and negative about the game and claimed he COULD do the hard stuff, he WOULD do the hard stuff, but he just dont wanna - and for some ppl, that was the end of TB.

    Obviously he had a decent career after that, but it was clear a certain portion of the community really didnt appreciate the "this game is too easy for me" attitude, when he wasnt even doing mid tier difficulty stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobleshield View Post
    I suspect it might have been an excuse to go off and do other things. I recall another podcast, the name escapes me, that the host went on this tirade about I can't remember if it was RealID or the "Call to Arms" in the dungeon finder (maybe both) and basically threw a tantrum and ragequit his podcast, then later he came clean that IIRC his wife had just had a baby and he wanted to "go out with a bang".

    I suspect TB may have done the same thing, since it was clear at that point he was getting tired of WoW.
    Quoting these posts for additional emphasis. As someone who's been around the WoW content scene forever, this was what likely happened. I've seen content creators do stuff like this over time. Sometimes it helps justify to the greater masses, sometimes it helps their current audience carry over with them to their future games instead of just saying "I quit". It's not fully genuine but a good audience retention method. Youtube's model also lends itself to creating clickbait and making a show of things, like you're a paid actor. (there's still genuine people out there though ofc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyranade View Post
    For me, WoW died with that 4.2 patch. I loved the beginning of Cataclysm as a Shaman healer. I remember TB at that time and stopped playing when he did.
    Skipped Pandaria and WoD, came back to Legion but was appalled at the state of the classes, rng etc etc . Left for good after 3 months of BfA. It's really sad he's gone. He was a part of the early years and I remember him fondly.
    That is an odd patch to claim WoW is death.
    Most people said WoW died before cataclysm even came out. But i guess 4.2 is a nice patch. 4.3 was one of the worst patches in WoW history though.
    Also horrible that you skipped MoP, MoP was the last great expansion that felt WoW alike.
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    Goddamn it, Gimlix, why do you keep making these threads?
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    Goddamn it, Gimlix, why do you keep making these threads?

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by therealstegblob View Post
    The point is that objectively speaking, you didn't need to get BiS pre-raid gear. Just because some raider leaders would require it or some people "did it just because" of their own free will did not ever make it mandatory to do, just subjective.

    But yeah wow I'm a "troll". Ignored.

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    I'm getting a fucking stroke from trying to read your posts so I'm just going to end this by saying: You're wrong. You're trying to argue subjective experience vs. objective situation. This argument is fucking stupid and I'm not responding to it anymore.
    Sure, subjective. Link your armory.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by MrExcelion View Post
    Quoting these posts for additional emphasis.
    These arguments by retailers are so monotonous. It amounts to, essentially: "who cares if 90% of the content is a trivialised plays-itself loot pinata, just do this portion of the content that is much harder." What if people don't want to get into that portion of content? What if they were happy with the parts of the game that had hitherto provided them the desired level of satisfaction and difficulty? Is it so hard to imagine that someone would rather quit the game than stick around hoping for the best, when seeing an undeniable trend towards this direction?

    TB got out at the right time, he could see where things were going. It's a real shame he won't be around to enjoy Classic.

  13. #153
    He repeated the "Wrath ruined people by making them want easy content" canard. This is bullshit, but hardcores like it because it lets them cling to the ridiculous idea that keeping the game difficult could have worked.

    No, people were quitting over difficult or inaccessible content from day 1. Blizzard was pulled, kicking and screaming, into providing easier content because there was never any other realistic option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WowClassic View Post
    These arguments by retailers are so monotonous. It amounts to, essentially: "who cares if 90% of the content is a trivialised plays-itself loot pinata, just do this portion of the content that is much harder." What if people don't want to get into that portion of content?
    Blizzard was too cowardly to do what they should have done: thrown those players who demanded hard content under the bus. Catering to players like that has been the central mistake they've made.
    "There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
    "The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
    "Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Eggroll View Post
    He was as flawed as anyone of us, but he entertained and inspired a lot of people. I remember back in Cata I always couldn't wait for the new episode of Azeroth Daily.

    The WoW devs embarrassed themselves greatly when they didn't acknowledge his contributions to the WoW community last year after his passing. These idiot cucks..

    RIP TB, might you find peace in heaven.
    imagine unironically using cucks as an insult. and also I've never told anyone to get cancer and die, and i don't tell people to kill themselves either. Maybe that's how YOU act but don't speak for everyone.
    change can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therealstegblob View Post
    The point is that objectively speaking, you didn't need to get BiS pre-raid gear. Just because some raider leaders would require it or some people "did it just because" of their own free will did not ever make it mandatory to do, just subjective.

    But yeah wow I'm a "troll". Ignored.

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    I'm getting a fucking stroke from trying to read your posts so I'm just going to end this by saying: You're wrong. You're trying to argue subjective experience vs. objective situation. This argument is fucking stupid and I'm not responding to it anymore.
    Is English not your first language then? Something is stopping you from making decisive rebuttals, but you have that covered. "Ignored."

    "You're wrong and that's the end."

    "Argument is stupid and I'm not replying to it anymore."

    Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    imagine unironically using cucks as an insult. and also I've never told anyone to get cancer and die, and i don't tell people to kill themselves either. Maybe that's how YOU act but don't speak for everyone.
    What's wrong with using cucks as an insult? I personally don't find it to be a very hefty insult, but insults are based on perspective. Also, I don't think at any point in that quote did he attempt to speak for everyone.

    Sounds like you got offended about something that wasn't involving you, and felt the need to step in and let everyone know you were offended and that's just NOT OK.

    "Maybe you should kill yourself by getting cancer and dying you cuck."

    Imagine that unironically.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    That is an odd patch to claim WoW is death.
    Most people said WoW died before cataclysm even came out. But i guess 4.2 is a nice patch. 4.3 was one of the worst patches in WoW history though.
    Also horrible that you skipped MoP, MoP was the last great expansion that felt WoW alike.
    Patch 4.2 was the one patch with heavy nerfs after all the complaining from players. I enjoyed the harder content so I was really disappointed. Please tell me what was so bad about 4.3?
    I didn’t like MoP. I din’t find it WoW like at all with all the mini games and forced Chinese market appeal. Also MoP was the expansion where sharding was introduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsgrace View Post
    I'd say someone laced your pot, try a new Dispensary.
    Hell no. If what he's smoking can make anything Bliz puts out be the best then it's the good stuff if you really want to play/enjoy WoW.

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Ya Boy Kirk View Post
    I'd call telling people to "get cancer and die" and also supporting harassment of women horrible. But you do you.
    Wonder what people can dig up about your past. But I'm sure you're a saint so you shouldn't worry.
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