I think N'zoth will end up being the focus of the next expansion. If they kill him off this expansion, they are going to be rushing content and frankly, I have no idea what they'd have in mind for next expansion if not for old god themed content.
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They will off him in this expansion because they're hacks. Sylvanas might get a SoO rehash as a mini-raid in 8.2.5, explaining why Eternal Palace has so few bosses.
On-Topic: Not going to happen. Sylvanas is an Old God puppet and unlike the truly chad Warchiefs, she won't get to be an end boss. That'd imply she'd have screen time after all. If she doesn't run away to be more evil she'll get taken out in a side-raid.
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Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
I think it is quite clear, that Blizzard have made her into something more than just "a common undead". She can even raise the dead apperantly, so her power lvl is up there.
It would be an odd turn of events and they are really turning it up for Sylvanas to go "away" soon, so her just killing N'zoth would be wierd, unless she absorbs his power or something.
....But to be honest, 8.3 will without a doubt be The Black Empire patch and N'zoth will be at its end.
May the lore be great and the stories interesting. A game without a story, is a game without a soul. Value the lore and it will reward you with fun!
Don't let yourself be satisfied with what you expect and what you seem as obvious. Ask for something good, surprising and better. Your own standards ends up being other peoples standard.
You can see the second part of my comment. Why you are only focusing on the part you're not agreeing with?
It's not like I don't like her, I don't feel sympathy to any of the characters in WoW. But if I'd see, for an example, Mathias Shaw killing N'Zoth in the 8.2 then I'd be kinda disgusted.
The only thing that concerns me are the people who are overhyping Sylvanas, though they lack arguments for their statements. She's a very popular character in this forum, so yeah... I could stand like 2-3 posts/threads about her, but after seeing the bland false about her, being stronger than Malfurion, repeating over and over it's getting kinda annoying.
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Don't let yourself be satisfied with what you expect and what you seem as obvious. Ask for something good, surprising and better. Your own standards ends up being other peoples standard.
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Yes and Teldrassil will be a twist and Grom will be a raid boss. Also this expansion isn't Mists 2.0 despite having every plot point beat for beat in the interminable rebellion storyline. She might not die in a raid right away and she might leave the Horde prior to becoming such, but these are cosmetics.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
I just realized they mirrored that already...
... when Lord Godfrey, a relatively freshly raised minion (a Gilnean Noble turned Forsaken with not special power), surprised her with a specially prepared bullet on the back of her skull, effectively killing her, as in One Shot kill.
One more Arthas to Sylvanas parallel, and another one not in her favor, for Godfrey was much more competent at betrayal/revenge than her. Now if he had dealt with the stupid Orc as well we would be in much less trouble.
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N'zoth dies in Season 8, Episode 8.3
She stabs him with her dagger and he shatters all over Azeroth so players have to collect N'zotherit.
The highlight will be a cinematic N'zoth singing "Shatter Me", Lindsey Sterling playing the violin and Sylvanas dancing.
Don't give Blizzard's "season 8 of GoT was amazeballs" writers any ideas... What if they actually read this and were all like "this would subvert expectations so much!!1!"?
Don't put words in my mouth because you have no argument whatsoever, yet feel the need to desperately try to pretend that you do. Post-retcon lore is canon. That is simply a fact. Me stating that fact does in no way, shape or form mean I'm OK with them retconning things, because words mean things and the words I actually wrote do not convey the latter message.
Care to point out specifically which part of what I said was wrong? Oh, you can't, because everything I said is correct, which is precisely why you are engaging in this meandering BS instead? OK then, great quality post you contributed to the forum.
Except you're making shit up. Sylvanas fought Malfurion three times in the novel. The first time was when Lorash was captured by Malfurion and he was stalling. It ended with Malfurion running away after Sylvanas arrived. The second time was after the Horde captured Astanaar and Night Elf assassin tried to lure Saurfang outside of the inn. Saurfang declared Mak'gora on Malfurion, was captured by Malfurion's vines and was saved by Sylvanas' arrival. It also ended with Malfurion running away. The final bout is the one where Malfurion got axed by Saurfang. The only part of that fight we see in the novel is Sylvanas launching Malfurion into trees with dark magic and Saurfang throwing his axe at him when he was raising.
So your reply to @Friendlyimmolation here is a case of pot calling the kettle black, except you made the kettle up. Congrats.
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When on earth do Chronicles say the Old Gods can't die?
Given how @Aucald was talking about Sylvanas' powers as a Banshee, it's obviously not about Scourge invasion of Quel'Thalas that they were talking about but Sylvanas almost killing Arthas when she broke free from Lich King's grasp, where Arthas was saved by Kel'thuzad.
As for Kael'thas, it's not exactly a good example to diminish Sylvanas' power, because she turned Dar'khan into a defenseless whelp in a fight where his magical prowess dwarfed pretty much anyone else sans maybe WotE-empowered Azshara, as he had entirety of Sunwell's power all for himself at that time. Mages are useless against her. Plus like @Terongor already said, Arthas fared rather poorly against Kael.
As for Arthas' duel with Kerrilldank, he won because the Lich King reinvigorated him prior to the fight and Kerrilldank was fighting like a complete moron, wasting time on boasting, monologuing about his weapons and performing flashy moves, which included him going in for the final strike in the most flashy way possible when Arthas wasn't disarmed yet.
The Scourge was immune to the passive corrupting effect of the Old Gods' voice or presence, yes; they're not however immune to the will or power of an Old God arrayed directly against them. Evidenced by the fact that the Twilight's Hammer has Forsaken members who are just as insanely corrupt as its members of the other races.
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