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  1. #81
    It does... because then people just use that instead of making groups how it was intended to be done.

    Basically, without this addon, people will have a harder time making groups because those using it will be out of the pool of users.

    This makes the addon mandatory for anyone to make groups, which is pathetic. I hope Blizzard bans it.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumonk View Post
    I am currently in the process of developing a LFG addon for classic and I got the basic functionalities working. As I do want to create a tool that somewhat reflect the spirit of the classic community I want to reach out to you guys and get feedback or suggestions on features that should or should not be included. I know a lot of people are very sensitive when it comes to a LFG tool for classic and thats exactly why I want to try to work it out with the community. I will consolidate all the feedback and suggestions provided in this thread in the OP.
    The following is a small summary of what features are currently planned and which are not:

    Planned/Already implemented:

    Parse chat messages for groups:
    The addon checks all public messaging channels your character sees and tries to figure out if this message has the purpose of looking for people for a dunngeon. If such a message is found it will broadcast this message to other people using the addon. This means that the message of a player in stormwind that is looking for people to do deadmines with is going to be relayed to people outside of stormwind and vice versa. This enables people to actually go out in the world and do quests, farm, PvP and more.
    The addon then shows this in a nice formated way in its interface. You can then just click on the group and whisper the leader to join them

    Addon created groups:
    This feature allows you to list your group in the tool with a button click and makes it visible to everyone with the addon. It also advertises for your group in a configurable chat channel of your choice, so even people without the addon are going to notice your group. People with the addon can just queue for your group and will show up in the list of applicants.
    This does not only include dungeons, but also has a custom category for world events like: World Bosses, Stranglethorn Arena ect.

    Ignore List:
    Groups that contain people on your ignore list will not show up for you in the tool.

    Not Planned:

    - Making item level of applicants available to a group leader
    - Automated matchmaking

    If you want to try out the addon for yourself, a first release is available on the twitch app or curseforge. I really hope to get your guys opinion on this in a civilized way
    Since some time has passed since the first post, how's the whole thing doing?

    Also I have a question: If the ilvl stuff is meant to avoid toxicity or eventually elitism ( I am guessing, but maybe I am wrong ), wouldn't the ignore list feature push towards the point you are trying to avoid?

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Castration View Post
    It does... because then people just use that instead of making groups how it was intended to be done.

    Basically, without this addon, people will have a harder time making groups because those using it will be out of the pool of users.

    This makes the addon mandatory for anyone to make groups, which is pathetic. I hope Blizzard bans it.
    Bullshit. Nothing about it makes it mandatory, and it does not affect the "pool of users". It simply reads chat for you and displays groups looking for members. Less hyperbolic bs please.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    Bullshit. Nothing about it makes it mandatory, and it does not affect the "pool of users". It simply reads chat for you and displays groups looking for members. Less hyperbolic bs please.
    You clearly do not understand the impact to the game.

    Once you understand, then you can reply.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumonk View Post
    Ignore List:
    Groups that contain people on your ignore list will not show up for you in the tool.
    The problem is that if you are a party leader and you invite someone that has a terrible reputation youll never get to fill up your party since it will be ignored by most users.

    I would change this to a reputation system that everyone can have access to, can be in a color system at simple sight like green, yellow and red and then a more detailed one by clicking the name or overlay. That way you can easily avoid bad reputation players into your group

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Castration View Post
    You clearly do not understand the impact to the game.

    Once you understand, then you can reply.
    There is no impact to the game, other than fool's like you that think it is some evil, terrible thing. But hey, keep the hyperbolic bs flowing.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Castration View Post
    You clearly do not understand the impact to the game.

    Once you understand, then you can reply.
    Your post literally applies to yourself. Learn what the addon actually does before you reply again.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevied View Post
    The problem is that if you are a party leader and you invite someone that has a terrible reputation youll never get to fill up your party since it will be ignored by most users.

    I would change this to a reputation system that everyone can have access to, can be in a color system at simple sight like green, yellow and red and then a more detailed one by clicking the name or overlay. That way you can easily avoid bad reputation players into your group
    A rep system is too easily abused.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    There is no impact to the game, other than fool's like you that think it is some evil, terrible thing. But hey, keep the hyperbolic bs flowing.
    No point in arguing with people who do not understand something as simple as this.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Castration View Post
    No point in arguing with people who do not understand something as simple as this.
    You have already proven your ignorance in the matter. Time for ignore.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodykiller86 View Post
    While i will in no way shape or form be playing classic i wonder if people realize that LFG tool is different from LFD and LFR lol
    I hope so. If they think an addon can teleport people to the dungeon they have to be a special kind of stupid. As I understood it there would also be no automatic matchmaking which means you'll still form the group manually, you just won't have to try reading trade chat while hundreds of people are spamming it non stop.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    You have already proven your ignorance in the matter. Time for ignore.
    There's no point bud, just stop replying. You have lost an argument that you do not understand.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Gatto View Post
    Since some time has passed since the first post, how's the whole thing doing?

    Also I have a question: If the ilvl stuff is meant to avoid toxicity or eventually elitism ( I am guessing, but maybe I am wrong ), wouldn't the ignore list feature push towards the point you are trying to avoid?
    I'm working on it basically every day and I've made great progress so far. The basics of the addon are working (you can create and find groups using the addon right now). Yes, by not displaying ilvl to the group leaders I want to prevent people from filtering others out by just a number indicator that doesn't really have any value in classic (Gear with lower item level is better in a lot of cases). The ignore list is the same as your real ignore list and you would not have seen this person posting a group in chat anyways

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Castration View Post
    You clearly do not understand the impact to the game.

    Once you understand, then you can reply.
    You clearly didn't read what the addon does.


    Addon created groups:
    It also advertises for your group in a configurable chat channel of your choice, so even people without the addon are going to notice your group.
    So again how does people using the addon effect you?

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevied View Post
    The problem is that if you are a party leader and you invite someone that has a terrible reputation youll never get to fill up your party since it will be ignored by most users.

    I would change this to a reputation system that everyone can have access to, can be in a color system at simple sight like green, yellow and red and then a more detailed one by clicking the name or overlay. That way you can easily avoid bad reputation players into your group
    I do not want to put in any reputation system as the community should regulate itself, but you are right about the first part. Maybe I should just not show a group to you if the leader is on your ignore list?

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Embriel View Post
    I hope so. If they think an addon can teleport people to the dungeon they have to be a special kind of stupid. As I understood it there would also be no automatic matchmaking which means you'll still form the group manually, you just won't have to try reading trade chat while hundreds of people are spamming it non stop.
    To me it seems like all these people think its like LFD and LFR lol LFG is the manual tool that we have in game right now and idk how they dont get that xD

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodykiller86 View Post
    To me it seems like all these people think its like LFD and LFR lol LFG is the manual tool that we have in game right now and idk how they dont get that xD
    Stupidity? Ignorance? All of the above?

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Embriel View Post
    Stupidity? Ignorance? All of the above?
    most likely but i dont expect much from classic crazies as it is lol

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumonk View Post
    I do not want to put in any reputation system as the community should regulate itself, but you are right about the first part. Maybe I should just not show a group to you if the leader is on your ignore list?
    I really wanted to do a thread with a poll about this topic...but maybe i shouldnt.

    But i have a request for this addon:
    Make a PERSONAL reputation tab. (only shows to the user and NOT to the world)

    At the end of each dungeon you can can give a "+" or a "-" to all party members.
    And next time you see them on LFG you would see the +'s and the -'s
    But is only personal.
    You can also have "notes" on each player so you recognize them.

    NOTE: I still dont know if i agree with addons...this should be a topic worth discussing
    Last edited by Togabito; 2019-06-07 at 03:33 PM.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Castration View Post
    it removes people from the classic way to create dungeon groups... simple.
    No it doesn't.

    First of all, servers are going to be far larger than before. General chat in citites will be fast and it will be hard to read everything. On private servers everyone joins /world to make groups. I expect that to follow in classic.

    The world chat moves so fast it's almost impossible to read it all.

    What this addon does is flag people who are looking to do dungeons.

    So if I type "LFG DM", I will be listed under Deadmines (and possibly Dire Maul). This makes it easier for people creating a group and vice versa.

    You still have to whisper and invite people yourself.

    It's a copy of Vqueue (addon used on private servers).
    Last edited by Tekkommo; 2019-06-07 at 03:30 PM.

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