Germany says there is 'strong evidence' Iran behind tanker attacks

[Independent voter]

Chancellor Angela Merkel has said there is "strong evidence" Iran carried out attacks on two tankers in the Gulf of Oman. She also warned Iran of consequences if it violated the 2015 international nuclear deal.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Tuesday there is "strong evidence" Iran was behind the twin tanker attacks near the strategic Strait of Hormuz.

The United States has accused Iran of attacking the Japanese and Norwegian flagged tankers and released video and pictures purporting to show a Revolutionary Guard boat removing an unexploded limpet mine.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-says-t...cks/a-49248524

This is a change, Germany originally said there wasn't enough evidence.

The way I see it, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Mullahs didn't even bother to tell the Iranian civilian government they were going to attack a tanker.

If you were in charge of such things, and you believed the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Mullahs attacked and damaged that Japanese tanker, what would you do?

[JohnBrown1917]

Falling in line behind papa US.

[Ghostpanther]

This is a change, Germany originally said there wasn't enough evidence.

The way I see it, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Mullahs didn't even bother to tell the Iranian civilian government they were going to attack a tanker.

If you were in charge of such things, and you believed the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Mullahs attacked and damaged that Japanese tanker, what would you do?

Sounds like they finally got to look at all the evidence.

I would not start a war over it. But beef up security in that area to help protect the shipping there and call on my allies to help with doing that.

[FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum]

Sounds like they finally got to look at all the evidence.

I would not start a war over it. But beef up security in that area to help protect the shipping there and call on my allies to help with doing that.

I wouldn't invade or declare war or anything like that. But a punitive expedition would be good. The Iranian Navy is pathetically small. The US Navy could sink all of it in 1 day.

[swenemy451]

An appropriate response would be an airstrike or two on Iranian infrastructure. Preferably government buildings. To make a point.

[Noradin]

This is a change, Germany originally said there wasn't enough evidence.

The only change here is what your misquoting does to translation.

[Dsonsion]

This is a link to the Nigel Farage milkshaking.

[Saucexorzski]

Damit, trump hacked germany!

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This is a link to the Nigel Farage milkshaking.

shhhhh dont do that, you will ruin it.

[Independent voter]

An appropriate response would be an airstrike or two on Iranian infrastructure. Preferably government buildings. To make a point.

Damn, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Mullah's sure made a lot of people seem foolish, carrying out that attack.

Germany isn't the lapdog of America. A lapdog would've canceled the Iranian Nuclear Treaty when America did.


Yeah, I think blowing up a building the Iranian Revolutionary Guard uses is appropriate.

I don't think Trump will order any reprisals, he's happy with how the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Mullahs made him look right all along. "Give them enough rope to hang themselves" as the expression goes.

[announced]

As far as I'm aware, you conveniently left the part out where she also said that this evidence, whilst strong, does NOT warrant immediate military action, but that it's a good reason to focus further investigations into that direction primarily. Omitting is misquoting. AKA fake news

So far even Adam Schiff (D-Calif) says there is strong evidence that Iran was behind this attack.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...r_attacks.html
If this is still considered a false flag attack, it is now a bipartisan one, probably the first one in history.


As for what I would do, maybe some more sanctions on Iran. I'd rather cripple them economically instead of putting boots on the ground.

edited. mistype. meant to say Iran.

[Felya]

As for what I would do, maybe some more sanctions on Iraq. I'd rather cripple them economically instead of putting boots on the ground.

That’s a funny typo... considering the issue with Iraq was them getting enriched uranium... WMDs!!!... that... worked out?

[Masark]

As for what I would do, maybe some more sanctions on Iraq. I'd rather cripple them economically instead of putting boots on the ground.

Is this remark evidence of your inability to type or your inability to think?

I'm leaning towards the latter, as Q is nowhere near N on any keyboard layout I'm familiar with.


Infracted.

[announced]

Is this remark evidence of your inability to type or your inability to think?

I'm leaning towards the latter, as Q is nowhere near N on any keyboard layout I'm familiar with.

mistype, ive only had 3 hours of sleep today. Again, the same point still stands. No need for intervention.

[Felya]

Is this remark evidence of your inability to type or your inability to think?

That’s kinda harsh... it’s totally understandable, considering not only the similar name, but the similarities between current events and previous actions with Iraq.

[PACOX]

If it wasn't done by the government then the action would be to pressure the Iranian government to hold them accountable.
It would be like going to war with the US because a couple of soldiers went on a shooting spree.

Anyone who calls from war or military intervention is a donkey.

[Ihavewaffles]

I don't think Trump will order any reprisals, he's happy with how the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Mullahs made him look right all along. "Give them enough rope to hang themselves" as the expression goes.

Do you...just...put random words together?

[Collegeguy]

What would they have hoped to gain from it? Allah points?

[Blur4stuff]

Hey remember that war in Iraq? Let's do it again, except make it much worse for everyone. Sounds great, right?

[Slant]

This is a change, Germany originally said there wasn't enough evidence.

Germany hasn't changed its stance. There is still not enough evidence. See, strong evidence doesn't equal "enough" evidence.

[Noradin]

I don't think the point of this is war in any way, not from the Iran side, nor from the US side. The Guard, if they indeed are to blame, seek to further isolate their country and stop any negotiations. The US on their side would be unlikely to go to war and would mostly push for further sanctions and push diplomatically so that other signatories of the treaty with Iran abandon it.
Personally I think that since the point of this attack was exactly to hamper negotiations, the best response would be to continue trying to come to a solution and perhaps apply pressure to the Iranian state to investigate this matter transparently. If Iran is to become a partner to the rest of us at some point in the future, then it needs to confront the fact that public and military organizations have too much power and can easily go rogue.

But then how to generate enough refugees to finally break the EU?