8.2 - fire's time to shine?

[FlemmMinis]

Lucid dreams active gives you 100% faster Fireblast charges

[Kaver]

It's not mana regen for mages. It changes depending on class. It regents your fireblasts faster and the minor have chance on each spellcast to grant half of a fireblasts charge.

Okay makes sense. Thank you. I couldn’t find anywhere what the major did for mages :b

[fujiapples]

I knew it!
Its time to get my fire mage rolling ;D
I hope things wont get nerfed

[Fayenoor]

I knew it!
Its time to get my fire mage rolling ;D
I hope things wont get nerfed

Developers' note: The Minor Power on Memory of Lucid Dreams has a custom implementation for Fire Mages and how it interacts with Fire Blast charges. However, this wound up being too strong relative to other Essences' Minor Powers. As such we're reducing its proc rate by 33% for Fire Mages, which should keep this as a very strong option to use in the Minor Slot, but much closer to the potency of other Minor Powers.

[Maljinwo]

Developers' note: The Minor Power on Memory of Lucid Dreams has a custom implementation for Fire Mages and how it interacts with Fire Blast charges. However, this wound up being too strong relative to other Essences' Minor Powers. As such we're reducing its proc rate by 33% for Fire Mages, which should keep this as a very strong option to use in the Minor Slot, but much closer to the potency of other Minor Powers.

Well, it was fun while it lasted

[Lulbalance]

Well, it was fun while it lasted

It's still really good.. just not overpowered.

[Maljinwo]

It's still really good.. just not overpowered.

Yep, apparently I really misunderstood the nerf

By the way, when do you guys activate Lucid Dreams?
I'm still trying to ger comfortable with it as sometimes I don't get the minimum 6 fire blasts during Combustion

[Video Games]

Yep, apparently I really misunderstood the nerf

By the way, when do you guys activate Lucid Dreams?
I'm still trying to ger comfortable with it as sometimes I don't get the minimum 6 fire blasts during Combustion

Pot fireball lucid fireblast rop combust pyro/fb depending 3 stacks of bm meteor normal comust opener. I was having 90k openers on mythic jaina

[DPO]

Been away for a year cuz I couldn't stand playing my fire mage I would like to come back I don't play a lot real seriously maybe just mythics what is the best build for fire right now? When I login I feel completely lost lol

[Ashina]

no

fire will not be shining unless blizzard considerably buffs it. This xpac doesn't follow prior old xpacs of "fire sucks until x crit" formula.

Fire has evolved, along with shitty azerite traits and essences that don't really help it to keep it p. garbage in 8.2

Time to retire your account. Fire is doing great.

[mrgreenthump]

Time to retire your account. Fire is doing great.

People are starting to get their rank 3 raid essences and gain loads of DPS from them, while fire gains nothing over Lucid rank 3. Also Fire isn't doing great it's doing decently and is in the middle of the pact on fights that last longer as they do on Mythic difficulty.

Granted it's better than garbage with the right setup.

[MrExcelion]

People are starting to get their rank 3 raid essences and gain loads of DPS from them, while fire gains nothing over Lucid rank 3. Also Fire isn't doing great it's doing decently and is in the middle of the pact on fights that last longer as they do on Mythic difficulty.

Granted it's better than garbage with the right setup.

4 mages 5 locks in Limits Azshara kill, at least

[Trumpcat]

4 mages 5 locks in Limits Azshara kill, at least

Which doesn't change the situation. Fire has reached its peak performance from essences and it needs a very specific gear setup to work.

Other specs are still gaining power and will continue to as people start getting rank 3 in their essences.

Frost sims already show on par or higher and that is not with rank 3. It is a matter of time. Fire has not been buffed, it only got its BIS essence before anyone else.

[MrExcelion]

needs a very specific gear setup to work

Yup, said gear setup has to be assumed when talking about BFA raiding. You play the spec+azerite loadout rather than just the spec. I don't like it either, but you'll have to put in the extra legwork to obtain it. Players are obtaining said setup. Arguably more cumbersome than relics, IMHO, especially for playing more than one spec.

Frost sims already show on par or higher and that is not with rank 3. It is a matter of time. Fire has not been buffed, it only got its BIS essence before anyone else.

Yeah, I don't disagree, but at least Fire got to be useful during progression when it mattered the most for some guilds. Don't care too much about farm. Depends on the guild and how long they'll be progressing though. Point of reference is important. Being strong early on because of the Essence might keep Fire from getting buffed, but at the same time they have't been doing spec balancing much this xpac anyway. So yeah, I don't disagree that the problem remains.