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    Mob resistances?

    I wonder if blizz will ever introduce this. Certain mobs resistant to magic, certain magic or physical.

    Certainly would add a nice rpg element to the game i would think.
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    Well, the game used to have that... but it got removed with so many other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Explicit Teemo Nudes View Post
    Well, the game used to have that... but it got removed with so many other things.
    Blizzard...the destroyer of fun! T.T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muajin76 View Post
    Blizzard...the destroyer of fun! T.T
    "Fun" is very relative. It certainly was fun for some specs to be completely useless because boss was immune to a specific element. Or couldn't be poisoned. Or diseased.

    And it's not like it made the bosses more interesting. Hydross wasn't more "fun" because nature damage didn't work. Al'ar making mages go arcane? Same thing. Or just (caster) shaman farming nature immune elementals back in vanilla. That was "destroying fun", not Blizzard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muajin76 View Post
    I wonder if blizz will ever introduce this. Certain mobs resistant to magic, certain magic or physical.

    Certainly would add a nice rpg element to the game i would think.
    "Hey here is a bunch of mobs resistant to shadow magic"
    "but... im a shadow priest"
    "Alright then uhh fucking change class"


    yeah it was fine back then, because.... times were different, but now adays... imagine getting changed.

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    Could you imagine the shit show.

    Fire mages on fire resist bosses
    Frost on Frost resist.
    Shadow resist and shadow priests.

    it would guarantee a Taliesin "It was a shit show obviously." skit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    "Fun" is very relative. It certainly was fun for some specs to be completely useless because boss was immune to a specific element. Or couldn't be poisoned. Or diseased.

    And it's not like it made the bosses more interesting. Hydross wasn't more "fun" because nature damage didn't work. Al'ar making mages go arcane? Same thing. Or just (caster) shaman farming nature immune elementals back in vanilla. That was "destroying fun", not Blizzard.
    It most certainly did make bosses more interesting. A boss that's not resistant to anything is a boring boss, mechanics aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Could you imagine the shit show.

    Fire mages on fire resist bosses
    Frost on Frost resist.
    Shadow resist and shadow priests.

    it would guarantee a Taliesin "It was a shit show obviously." skit.
    Was Tali even around during vanilla? If he wasn't..then he has no right to call it a shit show
    I'm just saying..it would make the game more interesting and bring back a forgotten rpg element to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muajin76 View Post
    It most certainly did make bosses more interesting. A boss that's not resistant to anything is a boring boss, mechanics aside.
    How does it make it more interesting?

    Boss is immune to fire, so just switch out all the fire damages skills and drop that poor fire mage in the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansnom View Post
    How does it make it more interesting?

    Boss is immune to fire, so just switch out all the fire damages skills and drop that poor fire mage in the group.
    And if you were playing enhancement on Hydross, accept that your dps is going to shit and there's nothing you can do about it. It's so "interesting" to have your perfomance plummet because your abilities don't do anything and you don't have any alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    "Hey here is a bunch of mobs resistant to shadow magic"
    "but... im a shadow priest"
    "Alright then uhh fucking change class"


    yeah it was fine back then, because.... times were different, but now adays... imagine getting changed.
    This is it AAAAAAAAAAND /thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    "Fun" is very relative. It certainly was fun for some specs to be completely useless because boss was immune to a specific element. Or couldn't be poisoned. Or diseased.

    And it's not like it made the bosses more interesting. Hydross wasn't more "fun" because nature damage didn't work. Al'ar making mages go arcane? Same thing. Or just (caster) shaman farming nature immune elementals back in vanilla. That was "destroying fun", not Blizzard.
    Yeah because the game is so fun right now. So many people play that blizzard is reporting sub numbers el oh el. With your logic they should just give everyone one button that does 100 damage and can be used every second. Thats it, everything needed because anything else is useless fillers that are not fun


    Quote Originally Posted by Sansnom View Post
    How does it make it more interesting?

    Boss is immune to fire, so just switch out all the fire damages skills and drop that poor fire mage in the group.
    How can an actual human not know taht we can freely change spec? Another RPG element lost

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    Like, you can make a case for certain mobs taking more damage from certain things, i liked how in the Argus encounter, those Constellars took more damage from certain damage types.

    However, there were enough adds for every damage school, if a certain encounter has just one boss (mob) which takes 100% additional [school] damage, it's stupid as well.

    Stuff like that can exist within raids in my opinion, but it needs to be made sure that those specs affected negatively by it, can still participate and be useful within the encounter.

    In the outdoor world, it just doesn't work anymore, any shadow / affliction would be unable to kill mobs that are immune to shadow damage.
    Same goes for Fire mages, you would literally have to select another specialization to kill those mobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    And if you were playing enhancement on Hydross, accept that your dps is going to shit and there's nothing you can do about it. It's so "interesting" to have your perfomance plummet because your abilities don't do anything and you don't have any alternative.
    Ill up that by one and say i "killed" Hydross as Elemental.

    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    Yeah because the game is so fun right now. So many people play that blizzard is reporting sub numbers el oh el. With your logic they should just give everyone one button that does 100 damage and can be used every second. Thats it, everything needed because anything else is useless fillers that are not fun

    This is such an retarded argument and could be used to literally bash anything in the game right now.

    Dps hybrids are actually competitive? Well the game was more sucessful when they weren't!
    Prot pally the only tank capable of AoE tanking? All tanks can do it now, thus we should revert that as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muajin76 View Post
    I wonder if blizz will ever introduce this. Certain mobs resistant to magic, certain magic or physical.

    Certainly would add a nice rpg element to the game i would think.
    We had that in classic, it sucked. Elementals were immune to nature as well as their own element (fire ele = immune to fire and nature) as well as bleeds. Undead were immune to poisons and bleeds. Mechanicals were immune to poisons and bleeds. Most dragons were immune to fire. There were others.

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    It'd be fun if this was a thing but only if every class had ways to deal with it. So rather than using your usual rotation, maybe you need to use some other spells you don't normally use.

    Personally I'm surprised we haven't had a boss that has resists in phases. So throughout the fight they change resistances and you have to know which abilities to use when. So melee have to use cooldowns at different times to range, frost mage at different times to fire mages, stuff like that. Would mix up the formula a little bit without making any class irrelevant because they wouldn't be immune to that damage type all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelcryo View Post
    Personally I'm surprised we haven't had a boss that has resists in phases. So throughout the fight they change resistances and you have to know which abilities to use when. So melee have to use cooldowns at different times to range, frost mage at different times to fire mages, stuff like that. Would mix up the formula a little bit without making any class irrelevant because they wouldn't be immune to that damage type all the time.
    Ko'ragh in Highmaul was sort of working alongside those lines.

    I'd say however the results were rather mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muajin76 View Post
    Was Tali even around during vanilla? If he wasn't..then he has no right to call it a shit show
    I'm just saying..it would make the game more interesting and bring back a forgotten rpg element to the game.
    It wouldn't be calling the resistance in of itself a shit show. But playerbase reaction to it (well certain section of it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    Yeah because the game is so fun right now. So many people play that blizzard is reporting sub numbers el oh el. With your logic they should just give everyone one button that does 100 damage and can be used every second. Thats it, everything needed because anything else is useless fillers that are not fun
    Sounds like your average Vanilla or BC rotation for many classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    With your logic they should just give everyone one button that does 100 damage and can be used every second. Thats it, everything needed because anything else is useless fillers that are not fun
    so... vanilla classes..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    It wouldn't be calling the resistance in of itself a shit show. But playerbase reaction to it (well certain section of it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelcryo View Post
    It'd be fun if this was a thing but only if every class had ways to deal with it. So rather than using your usual rotation, maybe you need to use some other spells you don't normally use.

    Personally I'm surprised we haven't had a boss that has resists in phases. So throughout the fight they change resistances and you have to know which abilities to use when. So melee have to use cooldowns at different times to range, frost mage at different times to fire mages, stuff like that. Would mix up the formula a little bit without making any class irrelevant because they wouldn't be immune to that damage type all the time.
    There was a boss in EQ that had resist changes throughout the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Could you imagine the shit show.

    Fire mages on fire resist bosses
    Frost on Frost resist.
    Shadow resist and shadow priests.

    it would guarantee a Taliesin "It was a shit show obviously." skit.
    Enchanting: Scroll of Burning Ice - Deal Fire damage instead of Frost for X mins. Minor scrolls are cheap to make, but their effect disappears on death. Major scrolls are more expensive, but last through death.

    Inscription: Rune of the North
    - Deal Frost damage instead of Physical for X mins. Minor/major runes could work as well.

    Cooking: Stew of Oppressive Shadows - Deal no Shadow damage, dealing Physical damage instead.

    Damn some people are uncreative af.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Enchanting: Scroll of Burning Ice - Deal Fire damage instead of Frost for X mins. Minor scrolls are cheap to make, but their effect disappears on death. Major scrolls are more expensive, but last through death.

    Inscription: Rune of the North
    - Deal Frost damage instead of Physical for X mins. Minor/major runes could work as well.

    Cooking: Stew of Oppressive Shadows - Deal no Shadow damage, dealing Physical damage instead.

    Damn some people are uncreative af.
    Yea, that's what the game needs... more gold sink consumables /s

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