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    Without the horde and alliance, how would blood/void/high elf relations change?

    What do you reckon would happen when the horde and alliance aren't a thing anymore. How would the Thalassians interact?

    Void elves currently want blood elves out of hte horde
    Blood elves currently fear void elf magic affecting the sunwell so don't trust them
    High elves biggest issue with the blood elves is the horde and were willing to reconcile, but won't because of the horde.

    Blood elves several times have shown they don't mind being firendly with humans
    humans have shown several times they are willing ot accepet the blood elves back too

    Without the horde and alliance.. how would they work? Would that mean blue eyes for blood elves? And high elves as an identity

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    I think Highelves and Bloodelves could easily reconcile since there's no faction politics and Lor'Themar could make an attempt to apologize post BC. The Sunwell would not only be a symbol of hope for their people, but also of one of unity.

    As for Void elves, their issue would be the very thing that re-unites HEs/BEs. Unless the VEs find a way to exist near the Sunwell without tainting it, they would remain banished. High elves might actually lash out at them for threatening the one thing that reunited their race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmAddict View Post
    What do you reckon would happen when the horde and alliance aren't a thing anymore. How would the Thalassians interact?
    Does it matter, without the Horde this franchise is dead.

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    Thinking about how easy blood and high elves could get back together if there were no faction crap makes the void elves look even worse. They really should have been the bad guys or something.

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    Void elves will be the odd ones out no matter what, most high elves would most likely just return home.

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    The Alliance will always endure, though it might be very weakened. But the eastern nations of Stormwind, Stromgarde, Gilneas, Ironforge, and Gnomeregan will always be bound by history and tradition. The Void Elves would remain in the Alliance as they continue to push for Silvermoon to be brought back into the fold as well as continuing to uphold the noble ideals of the Alliance that they so fervently admire.

    People read "The Alliance will cease to exist" and overreact. Even if the Night Elves and Draenei leave, the Alliance of the east is too united to break apart.

    Finally, people forget that the Alliance has proven to be a shelter for the Void Elves so they would keep supporting it; furthermore, Magister Umbric didn't simply join the Alliance out of convenience, but because he truly believes in their sublime ideals as I was saying, so I can't imagine him cutting all ties with the Alliance.
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    High and blood elves would be neutral.

    High elves and void elves would be friends.

    Void elves would want to be friends with blood elves. Blood elves would not feel the same way.

    There's a huge rift between void and blood elves in that they're suffused with the void and the energies of the sunwell respectively. The things aren't compatible. Even if there were no factions, they'd at best be able to be cordial with each other.
    This kind of stuff is why I want factions to die, though. The races of Warcraft and how they interact would suddenly become so much more interesting without this hard divide.

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    Blood Elves are interesting, First they Banish the High Elves for refusing to sacrifice their morals and do what ever it takes to survive then they try and take the high ground and banish the void elves when the void elves attempt to do what it takes to survive.

    I'm sure the void elves would still be banished, but if the High Elves wanted to go back I'm sure they would be allowed back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Blood Elves are interesting, First they Banish the High Elves for refusing to sacrifice their morals and do what ever it takes to survive then they try and take the high ground and banish the void elves when the void elves attempt to do what it takes to survive.
    This is not really true the blood elves were literally walking on razors edge they did what was necessary to safe their nation, if you were unwilling to commit and threatened the public order at the time you got the boot but at the same time there were those who were deemed to have gone too far that were put down, like many of the wretched or true fel enthusiasts like kael'thas.

    Void elves merely fall onto the latter category, a threat to public safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozz View Post
    I think Highelves and Bloodelves could easily reconcile since there's no faction politics and Lor'Themar could make an attempt to apologize post BC. The Sunwell would not only be a symbol of hope for their people, but also of one of unity.

    As for Void elves, their issue would be the very thing that re-unites HEs/BEs. Unless the VEs find a way to exist near the Sunwell without tainting it, they would remain banished. High elves might actually lash out at them for threatening the one thing that reunited their race.
    he did try to help the high elves later. they basically told him to screw off
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    he did try to help the high elves later. they basically told him to screw off
    But not a proper one without the additional conflicts. I think it would work out easily, since the faction conflict is the only thing keeping them from being on the same alignment.

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    High and Blood Elves have 15 years of bloodshed between them. They're long lived, but they hold long grudges. The Horde attacks on the Lodges and Theramore, the Purge of Dalaran, Sunreaver vs Silver Covenant fights. I expect most High Elves would satisfied to continue living where they're at now: SW, Dalaran and the Hinterlands, and turn down invitations to go back to Silvermoon. Especially if Silvermoon would still allow orcs, undead, and trolls into the city.

    Void Elves are officially an elite crack team, so the handful that exist would either live in Stormwind, or go build up Telegrus Rift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    This is not really true the blood elves were literally walking on razors edge they did what was necessary to safe their nation, if you were unwilling to commit and threatened the public order at the time you got the boot but at the same time there were those who were deemed to have gone too far that were put down, like many of the wretched or true fel enthusiasts like kael'thas.

    Void elves merely fall onto the latter category, a threat to public safety.
    High Elves refused to drain creatures and try consuming other types of magic. It didn't hurt anyone but themselves. Forcing your people to become crack addicts and booting out the ones who refuse isn't a public safety thing.

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    I think it depends, mostly on Alleria, and by that i mean, how do HE see her, and how much important would be her voice, cause the VE have no chance on reuniting with the BE unless it means said BEs end up becoming VE, the HE and BE could end up working again together, even using the Sunwell as a "good will", but it cannot be done with the VE, this may even create a bigger separation between the HE and VE, they may work in the same faction but not together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    High Elves refused to drain creatures and try consuming other types of magic. It didn't hurt anyone but themselves. Forcing your people to become crack addicts and booting out the ones who refuse isn't a public safety thing.
    Letting your people die and/ or go mad isn't also a valid option as a king / regent lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmAddict View Post
    What do you reckon would happen when the horde and alliance aren't a thing anymore. How would the Thalassians interact?

    Void elves currently want blood elves out of hte horde
    Blood elves currently fear void elf magic affecting the sunwell so don't trust them
    High elves biggest issue with the blood elves is the horde and were willing to reconcile, but won't because of the horde.

    Blood elves several times have shown they don't mind being firendly with humans
    humans have shown several times they are willing ot accepet the blood elves back too

    Without the horde and alliance.. how would they work? Would that mean blue eyes for blood elves? And high elves as an identity

    Aside question: (would blizzard make high elf a shop customization?)
    void elves are a danger to the sunwell will not be allowed to return ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozz View Post
    But not a proper one without the additional conflicts. I think it would work out easily, since the faction conflict is the only thing keeping them from being on the same alignment.
    He offered supplies to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    High Elves refused to drain creatures and try consuming other types of magic. It didn't hurt anyone but themselves. Forcing your people to become crack addicts and booting out the ones who refuse isn't a public safety thing.
    It has nothing to do with becoming crack heads, not sating the thirst can have severe side effects like permanent physical and mental damages the high elves more or less refused to pull their weight and most likely caused civil unrest, since other dissidents were not exiled at all. Quel'thalas was in an absolute emergency situation the kingdom in ruins the scourge barreling down on them, no allies in sight and people refused to use a method that could make certain they are functional members of society.

    The moment things stabilized the society became more lenient but in this state of emergency it was of course brutal to dissenters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    since other dissidents were not exiled at all.
    Just mind controlled, if I recall correctly.
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    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
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    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    Just mind controlled, if I recall correctly.
    Desperate times call for desperate measures, the entire kingdom was on the brink of collapse and the entirety of the race close to extinction, at such points one crawls through the mud to get things done or becomes dead weight.

    The high elves chose to make a fuss at the worst possible time.
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