[Movie] Matrix (2021?)

[Kontinuum]

The Wachowski’s Set To Return To Direct Michael B. Jordan’s ‘Matrix’ Film – Eyeing Early 2020 Production Start In Chicago (EXCLUSIVE)

Last month, Chad Stahelski said to Yahoo Movies that the Wachowskis will be returning in some format in the new ‘Matrix’ film. He reportedly told the outlet: “I’m super happy that the Wachowskis are not just doing a Matrix, but they’re expanding what we all loved. And if it’s anywhere near the level of what they’ve already done, it wouldn’t take more than a call to go, ‘Hey, we want you to be a stunt guy’ and I would probably go and get hit by a car.”

However, Slashfilm has since reported that the comment is inaccurate and was taken out of context, but nevertheless we have heard a new ‘Matrix’ film is happening soon at Warner Bros with the Wachowskis set to return to direct.

As previously reported by THR, Zak Penn will write the screenplay and Michael B Jordan will star. We have learned that the Wachowskis will return to direct the film and will begin production in early 2020 in Chicago, they have been secretly prepping the film under the working title “Project Ice Cream”. Plot details are currently under wraps for the film however the project is already beginning to fill out it’s crew with Hugh Bateup, who was an art director on 1999’s ‘The Matrix’ set to return to the franchise as the production designer for this film.

Michael B. Jordan’s Outlier Society Productions and Warner Bros will produce the film, it is currently unknown whether the film will still be a reboot or will be a sequel to the previous trilogy.

The GWW has also reported that the film will shoot in Chicago under the name ‘Project Ice Cream’ with Lana Wachowski set to be one of the directors.

https://discussingfilm.net/2019/06/2...ago-exclusive/

[Vakna]

Why would you remake something that's already a masterpiece.

[IIamaKing]

Why would you remake something that's already a masterpiece.

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[Sluvs]

Why would you remake something that's already a masterpiece.

It might not be a reboot.

Anyway, the last two movies are very flawed, mainly the last one. A lot could be done to make them better, if it turns out to be a reboot that is.

[eschatological]

Man, what will happen when people realize that the revolutionaries of Zion tend to be people of color and one of the main rebels in the first movie was a transgender woman named Switch?

Hopefully, it's a sequel. I think Neo's story is done. I actually really liked Reloaded and Revolutions, and can go on and on ad nauseum about the Hegelian cycle of thesis, antithesis, synthesis that these films represented (and especially about how among Western audiences, only the first movie hit home, a movie about choice and personal freedom and waking up from a sort of digital slavery, while the latter two movies dealt with the conflicts and contradictions of that).

That being said, I don't see how a new writer will have the chops the Wachowskis did back in the late 90s. Every line in those movies are perfect, down to when Captain Soren says something like, "Do it as fast as humanly possible," reflecting the limitations of the humans in their fight against the machines - because of course the machines could do it infinitely faster.

Favorite cameo: Cornel West playing a councilor. Imagine a philosopher and theologian being so impressed with your movie he befriends you and then has a cameo in your two sequels.

[Vakna]

It might not be a reboot.

Anyway, the last two movies are very flawed, mainly the last one. A lot could be done to make them better, if it turns out to be a reboot that is.

The last one didn't really leave room for continuation though. Maybe I'm a too skeptical but I am pretty sure this will be a disaster like most modern reboots. Also I love Keanu with all my heart but he is a bit old to be playing Neo in a remake, and anyone else will just not be the same.

[eschatological]

It might not be a reboot.

Anyway, the last two movies are very flawed, mainly the last one. A lot could be done to make them better, if it turns out to be a reboot that is.

I disagree wholeheartedly. I always maintain that the last two movies deal with themes Western audiences don't really care for, themes which clash with freedom and personal choice, themes like having to trust a part of the system you're rebelling from, how dependent on the system you're trying to break free from you may be, how you may have a destiny and a fate, how you can't understand where you're going without understanding the why behind your previous choices.

The main flaw in the latter two movies end up being the CGI, which they tried to push too far. It was especially noticeable in the Burly Brawl where Neo looks downright plastic at points, and then the final fight scene in Revolutions, where the aerial stuff between Smith and Neo didn't really have much impact. In fact, the fighting was the weakest parts of the movies.

[Crillam]

Why would you remake something that's already a masterpiece.

Because if it is good we have another good movie, and if it sucks, well then we dont have to watch it.

[Kokolums]

The tech would have to be updated to reflect life today. Mostly they'd probably ditch the idea of hardlines. Everything is wireless now and you'd include RFID and of course RFID shielding. They'd use smartphones instead of bricks and clamshell phones.

[eschatological]

The whole wireless angle doesn't really add to the story, it just updates the aesthetic.

Unless they figure out something to spoof wireless traffic, and can "drop in" on people still plugged into the Matrix, making the revolutionaries almost like Agents. But again, that would go way against the theming of these movies.

And come on, a smartphone will never be as cool as that Nokia whose bottom shot out to expose the keypad. It's the first time I remember ever wanting a cellphone.

[Boricha]

I was hoping this reboot sensation would slow down in the next decade., but it doesn't look like it.

[Serpha]

Sounds like it may a be prequel, Morpheus origins? Would like to see that.

[Sluvs]

The last one didn't really leave room for continuation though. Maybe I'm a too skeptical but I am pretty sure this will be a disaster like most modern reboots. Also I love Keanu with all my heart but he is a bit old to be playing Neo in a remake, and anyone else will just not be the same.

I don't know about that. He did play John Wick. Some adjustments need to be done, but if it comes down to it, I think he can do it actually.

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Sounds like it may a be prequel, Morpheus origins? Would like to see that.

I honestly hate prequels. They might be interesting from a point of view, but they rarely make good movies, just my opinion though.

[Super Kami Dende]

Man, what will happen when people realize that the revolutionaries of Zion tend to be people of color and one of the main rebels in the first movie was a transgender woman named Switch?

The same thing that always happens? A few idiots complain and the Media makes it seem like there's some vast anti-Lbgt/Racist conspiracy?

[Sykol]

They already rebooted their genders, so why not this too?

[Sunseeker]

Not interested in a reboot. Not interested in a prequel.

Might be willing to give a sequel a go. Maybe some kind of "history repeating itsself" or "all out war between humans and the machines" (o wait that's Terminator). Maybe Terminator and The Matrix actually exist in the same timeline.

Okay, I'd watch a Terminator/Matrix crossover.

[exochaft]

I disagree wholeheartedly. I always maintain that the last two movies deal with themes Western audiences don't really care for, themes which clash with freedom and personal choice, themes like having to trust a part of the system you're rebelling from, how dependent on the system you're trying to break free from you may be, how you may have a destiny and a fate, how you can't understand where you're going without understanding the why behind your previous choices.

The main flaw in the latter two movies end up being the CGI, which they tried to push too far. It was especially noticeable in the Burly Brawl where Neo looks downright plastic at points, and then the final fight scene in Revolutions, where the aerial stuff between Smith and Neo didn't really have much impact. In fact, the fighting was the weakest parts of the movies.

I'd have to agree, especially when it comes to the underlying themes and symbolism in the movies. It's really heavy content that you could get into as an adult, but generally as a younger person you don't care or it goes over your head. Due to restrictions in the production of the last two movies, quite a bit of it was rushed to some degree.

Man, what will happen when people realize that the revolutionaries of Zion tend to be people of color and one of the main rebels in the first movie was a transgender woman named Switch?

I think people know and don't care? The huge difference between how it was done in the Matrix and how it's been done in other movies is that it's not shoved in your face and "zomg diversity at all costs!" in terms of it's implementation. It's the difference between making a character that happens to be transgender or it's actually important to the story versus making a character transgender because you "need" a transgender character. In the Matrix, there were no side comments or exposition going into the races/genders of people, or bringing it to the forefront because it doesn't matter to the story. If it's not important to the story, don't make a big deal out of it or intentionally focus on it or rub it in the audience's face. People want to be entertained, not lectured.

Anyways, I'll hold my reservations until a trailer or more info comes out as to whether I think it'll be interesting or not. Having Jordan staring is already a meh point. I liked him a lot more in the Creed setting than Black Panther and other roles he's done, not sure how it'd translate into a Matrix movie. Could surprise me, who knows? In general, I kind of hope the movie isn't a reboot and something more original. Getting rather fatigued with reboots.

[RobertoCarlos]

Why would you remake something that's already a masterpiece.

When this is your last movie and people stop giving you money to waste, its time to go back to the classics!

[Kokolums]

Fun fact: Lawrence Fishburne was 36 years old when they filmed the Matrix (1999). He looked like he was in his 50s. Keanu Reeves is just 3 years younger than him.

[RobertoCarlos]

Also they wanted Will Smith for the role of Neo.