I expect nothing, so I can't be disappointed (I hope)
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Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.
Agent Smith was a program, its the most easy to bring back character, they just had to say they had a back up of him, unlike Neo, that actually died. Agent Smith was the only one that matched Neo, and not even Neo was hable to overpower him like he did with anything else.
I got half way through the trailer and turned it off. Sent it to a mate and he said the same thing to me as I said to him. "Meh".
The Matrix story ended a long time ago, no-one really asked for 4 and given the previous 2 movies were wank, and the trailer is not interesting at all. It doesn't have the visuals or atmosphere of the original and I've seen a lot of pretty movies since 1999, the enhanced CG doesn't bother me.
I heard some theories that the "reality" in the first trilogy was just a second layer of the matrix, that would explain Neo powers even when not plugged, and they are finally awaking for the "true reality".
Don't rly know what to think, but the visual as specials effects are still astonishing and Keanu is looking badass as fuck with his "old man" look, i just hope it does not flop like start wars for trying to do the first movie again.
Theories? Isn’t that what the explanation was? Zion et al was an additional simulation for those that didn’t accept reality, and it would be purged from time to time with the council being the leftovers from the last purge. I only watched 2/3 once, so perhaps I’ve inserted my own canon where I shouldn’t have.
He was a program that broke free of his programming. Literally his whole last arc was about how the machines who ran the Matrix (IE the other Agents) had no control over him any more.
I suppose they could bring back Hugo Weaving as a blank Agent Smith for the memberberries, but what the fuck would be the point of that?
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Also just read this:
Niobe and Ghost in Enter the Matrix were fucking dope.Who's returning?
Reeves and Moss are the topline stars.
Jada Pinkett Smith’s Niobe – who appeared in the sequels but factored heavily in video-game spinoffs – will return alongside Lambert Wilson as The Merovingian and Daniel Bernhardt as the villainous Agent Johnson
This was an interesting read (it's a slow day...a hazy mayonnaisey kinda day for me)
this is the most prominent scene when thinking about that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-VPKuKvOvc
here Neo asked directly why he can do all that things even when not plugged into the matrix. the oracle gives him a very loosly coupled, unspecific and lousy answer. but it MAY point at that theory, that the „reality“ (zyon, outer world, etc) is a second layer of the matrix. we never got any real explanations for Neos abilities (like „seeing the source“ when he becames blind, stopping machines, etc) in the real world, beyond that talk between him and the oracle.
given the fact, that a machine can not lie and the architect told the full truth, the matrix lacks by an unsolved mathematical term. both parts of that math term are Neo and Agent Smith. Neo just exists, as some „outside of Agents Smith control“ logic, to reboot the Matrix and therefore delete Smith. This can be just done from the „outside“ because Smith controls everything inside, after a while. so, if you are a machine and you have to eliminate that term/problem, you would do exactly that.
that said, 2 thoughts come up:
1)
if Neos „outside“ is really the reality, how to control Neo and make sure he reboots the matrix ? also if the outside is the real reality, what are Neos abilities then ?
2)
if Neos „outside“ is not the real reality, but a second layer of the matrix, it solves all questions in point1. but it raises 2 new questions:
- how you make sure, Smith is not also controling of, or gaining access to, layer2 ?
- why you need Neo, when you can just reboot Layer1 from Layer2 ?
the second answer is solved, when Neo just IS exactly that mechanic. a program that think it breaks out (from layer1) and reset layer1 from layer2. a layer2 (and Neo as a program), that cant be reached by Smith. but above first question (how make sure Smith cant control Neo or reach Layer2) still exists.
so, i am not sure here. but its somewhat a possibility.
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The only CGI fight in Reloaded is the Burly Brawl. And yes, the cloak physics look off and rubbery, but the movements of the Smiths (real fighters with Hugo Weavings face mapped onto theirs) still holds up. The Mansion fight, no CGI. The intro mini-fight, no CGI. The Seraph introduciton fight, no CGI.
In Revolutions, most of the CGI is in Zion, and it still holds up. The end fight in Revolutions is largely wirework on a CGI backdrop, sure, but the fighting is legit. The club lobby scene in Revolutions - not CGI.
These two 2-hour-plus movies have two egregious uses of CGI - Neo's rubbery cloak in the Burly Brawl, and the sky fighting in the final fight of Revolutions. I'm willing to bet you're thinking of the rubbery cloak when you level absurd accusations like "too much CGI in the fight scenes."