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    Damaged (?) Flatscreen

    Hey,

    I have started to notice what I think is damage to my workplace screen, wchich is relativly new. I first noticed it a couple of months back, but didn't pay it any mind. It has since become more and more pronounced. It loos as if colour is running down inside the screen.

    Here's a pic.

    At first it was only noticable in blue tones, but now I'm starting to see it in grey and green aswell. It's getting distracting.

    Now, I'm fully aware that this probably cannot be helped, and I think the warrenty for the screen is expired, but I'd love to know what this is, what might have caused it, and how I could avoid it in the future.

    The picture doesn't do it full justice, it is much more pronounced, but I cannot take a better one.

    Edit: I'm aware I need to clean my screen. I'm terrible that way.

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    Looks like a dirty screen. I'm not seeing what you describe.
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    Do you mean the strange color variation in the center and top of the display? I'd thought this was your wallpaper, perhaps; but if it's supposed to be a flat color then yes I'd say you have an issue of some kind. What make and model of display is this?
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Do you mean the strange color variation in the center and top of the display? I'd thought this was your wallpaper, perhaps; but if it's supposed to be a flat color then yes I'd say you have an issue of some kind. What make and model of display is this?
    Yeah, that's what I mean. No, it's not part of the wallpaper, it's flat blue.

    It's an Ilyama ProLite B2783QSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Yeah, that's what I mean. No, it's not part of the wallpaper, it's flat blue.

    It's an Ilyama ProLite B2783QSU
    Buy a garbage panel, get garbage results? Sorry, but you should have done a little basic research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Buy a garbage panel, get garbage results? Sorry, but you should have done a little basic research.
    I didn't buy it, as I said, it's my workplace screen. Reading alone isn't enough, you know, you also have to comprehend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Yeah, that's what I mean. No, it's not part of the wallpaper, it's flat blue.

    It's an Ilyama ProLite B2783QSU
    Based on the type of display and the demonstrated issue, I'd say this is a backlight failure of some kind. You'd likely need a hardware technician to fully diagnose it, but the likely culprit is CCFT or inverter failure as a result of age or wear and tear. You tear down the display and use a multimeter to test the inverter signal, and if it is still working then replace the CCFT itself. This isn't too expensive of a repair in terms of hardware (around $30-$50 depending), but it requires a lot of electrical know-how and a high level of comfort disassembling and reassembling the display itself.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Based on the type of display and the demonstrated issue, I'd say this is a backlight failure of some kind. You'd likely need a hardware technician to fully diagnose it, but the likely culprit is CCFT or inverter failure as a result of age or wear and tear. You tear down the display and use a multimeter to test the inverter signal, and if it is still working then replace the CCFT itself. This isn't too expensive of a repair in terms of hardware (around $30-$50 depending), but it requires a lot of electrical know-how and a high level of comfort disassembling and reassembling the display itself.
    Thanks, I was just wondering what might have caused it, we have over 100 of these in the building and noone else has these issues, so I thought I might have done something wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Thanks, I was just wondering what might have caused it, we have over 100 of these in the building and noone else has these issues, so I thought I might have done something wrong.
    Probably not, no. CCFT modules are one of those components that seem to either last forever or go out constantly, and it's basically a coin toss as to whether or not you get lucky. Unless you've dropped or thrown the panel around a good deal it's unlikely you had anything to do with it and the internal components just went out randomly.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Probably not, no. CCFT modules are one of those components that seem to either last forever or go out constantly, and it's basically a coin toss as to whether or not you get lucky. Unless you've dropped or thrown the panel around a good deal it's unlikely you had anything to do with it and the internal components just went out randomly.
    I don't think I ever moved it since they delivered it, so, no. Thanks for the advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    I didn't buy it, as I said, it's my workplace screen. Reading alone isn't enough, you know, you also have to comprehend it.
    Sorry, every place I’ve ever worked they let me pick my own hardware within a set of guidelines. This seems like something you should raise internally, no?

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    I don't think I ever moved it since they delivered it, so, no. Thanks for the advice!
    Could have happened in shipping if yours was on top of the stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Sorry, every place I’ve ever worked they let me pick my own hardware within a set of guidelines. This seems like something you should raise internally, no?
    That's not really the norm in my experience, unless you're in IT yourself and/or involved in the hardware purchasing process. Generally you use what they give you - and if you need better hardware then you have to requisition it with some kind of business explanation as to why you need it.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Yeah, that's what I mean. No, it's not part of the wallpaper, it's flat blue.

    It's an Ilyama ProLite B2783QSU
    Press the PrtScn button then paste that into the window and lets see what it looks like as a digital screenshot please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Hey,

    I have started to notice what I think is damage to my workplace screen, wchich is relativly new. I first noticed it a couple of months back, but didn't pay it any mind. It has since become more and more pronounced. It loos as if colour is running down inside the screen.

    Here's a pic.

    At first it was only noticable in blue tones, but now I'm starting to see it in grey and green aswell. It's getting distracting.

    Now, I'm fully aware that this probably cannot be helped, and I think the warrenty for the screen is expired, but I'd love to know what this is, what might have caused it, and how I could avoid it in the future.

    The picture doesn't do it full justice, it is much more pronounced, but I cannot take a better one.

    Edit: I'm aware I need to clean my screen. I'm terrible that way.
    This confuses me mostly, as to why you would care to begin with if its provided by work and if you've never had a screen before. I myself had about ... hard to say really, maybe 12+ screens in my life and never saw something like this, also something that should never occur through normal use and is simply a hardware defect imho!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Sorry, every place I’ve ever worked they let me pick my own hardware within a set of guidelines. This seems like something you should raise internally, no?
    Office jobs, or other jobs where you spend a lot of time behind the desk? I'd expect to be more involved if that was the case. We get asked when it comes to medical equipment, from syringes to scalpels and defibrillators, to the MRI, but the PCs in our offices, nah. I really don't care much, as long as it works. A better screen won't improve my work experience since the crucial parts of my work aren't done on the PC. I could probably do completely without it, but it makes exchanging information and handling patients a lot easier. The PC itself is probably 10 years old by now, but it does everything I need it to do perfectly fine. I assume someone in acquisition got an offer for a lot of monitors for cheap, so he took it. I don't care if they try to save money there, as long as they don't cheap out on the important stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrotesque View Post
    This confuses me mostly, as to why you would care to begin with if its provided by work and if you've never had a screen before. I myself had about ... hard to say really, maybe 12+ screens in my life and never saw something like this, also something that should never occur through normal use and is simply a hardware defect imho!
    It's annoying, and I wanted to know if I maybe did something wrong. Just because I'm provided with it doesn't mean I don't care for it, to an extend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimekaro View Post
    Press the PrtScn button then paste that into the window and lets see what it looks like as a digital screenshot please.
    Will do that when I'm at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    It's annoying, and I wanted to know if I maybe did something wrong. Just because I'm provided with it doesn't mean I don't care for it, to an extend.
    I'm no expert but I almost guarantee you, unless you punched or otherwise mishandled that poor thing, you didn't have a thing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    That's not really the norm in my experience, unless you're in IT yourself and/or involved in the hardware purchasing process. Generally you use what they give you - and if you need better hardware then you have to requisition it with some kind of business explanation as to why you need it.
    *shrugs* guess I’ve been lucky in my programming career. Or I had special treatment. I never really discussed purchasing with my colleagues. No real reason to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Office jobs, or other jobs where you spend a lot of time behind the desk? I'd expect to be more involved if that was the case. We get asked when it comes to medical equipment, from syringes to scalpels and defibrillators, to the MRI, but the PCs in our offices, nah. I really don't care much, as long as it works. A better screen won't improve my work experience since the crucial parts of my work aren't done on the PC. I could probably do completely without it, but it makes exchanging information and handling patients a lot easier. The PC itself is probably 10 years old by now, but it does everything I need it to do perfectly fine. I assume someone in acquisition got an offer for a lot of monitors for cheap, so he took it. I don't care if they try to save money there, as long as they don't cheap out on the important stuff.

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    It's annoying, and I wanted to know if I maybe did something wrong. Just because I'm provided with it doesn't mean I don't care for it, to an extend.

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    Will do that when I'm at work.
    Programming jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post

    Programming jobs.
    In that case I can understand that they let you pick your hardware, since it's your primary 'tool' and you spend most of your time on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    In that case I can understand that they let you pick your hardware, since it's your primary 'tool' and you spend most of your time on it.
    Yeah, I guess I never really thought much beyond that. My cousin has always picked her own hardware as well, but she’s a geologist who generates 3d maps and her displays are a big factor in her work as well.
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