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  1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    The "full context" here is that you're effectively defending Antifa...a violent hate group....which isn't surprising.
    Except if you read my posts, which I guess you're not reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Well I am happy you support the threat of violence to stop free speech
    You sure like to make stuff up don’t you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    You sure like to make stuff up don’t you?
    So you don't support ANTIFA showing up making violent threats? My bad then, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    So you don't support ANTIFA showing up making violent threats? My bad then, sorry.
    Why would me pointing out that there has been some sort of deterrent make you possibly think that?
    Last edited by Lorgar Aurelian; 2019-08-22 at 05:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    While I have no idea who started it and I don’t really care it’s rather disingenuous to leave out that said people on the buses were swinging hammers off the buses right before your videos.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo...33952190582785
    Well, what do you expect them to do if they are trying to get into the bus to attack you? The group they attacked, were already in the bus, awaiting to leave. It is even clear from the video you linked, Antifa fanatics were the aggressors.

    People say a lot of shit. Show a video to back up their claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Why would me pointing out that there has been some sort of deterrent make you possibly think that?
    ANTIFA is violent, and you support them being a deterrent, therefore I felt you supported violence against people exercising their free speech. But then you said you don't support violence, so therefore I assume you don't support ANTIFA then.

    Can you please clarify?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    ANTIFA is violent, and you support them being a deterrent, therefore I felt you supported violence against people exercising their free speech. But then you said you don't support violence, so therefore I assume you don't support ANTIFA then.

    Can you please clarify?
    Ah, good old black and white.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Folks, please note that it's the same people saying "we need evidence as to why the Proud Boys had hammers/were there to fight" and also "Antifa are all violent and totally started everything", despite the latter statement also not being backed by the evidence (the video footage captures stuff in progress, not how things started).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Well, what do you expect them to do if they are trying to get into the bus to attack you? The group they attacked, were already in the bus, awaiting to leave. It is even clear from the video you linked, Antifa fanatics were the aggressors.

    People say a lot of shit. Show a video to back up their claim.
    https://twitter.com/BelowStudent/sta...19216489648130

    They opened the door and came out swinging first, my dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    ANTIFA is violent, and you support them being a deterrent, therefore I felt you supported violence against people exercising their free speech. But then you said you don't support violence, so therefore I assume you don't support ANTIFA then.

    Can you please clarify?
    Hooray, we're back to the "violence is all bad" nonsense.

    Do you oppose the use of violence in self-defense?
    Do you oppose the (reasonable) use of violence by police, in the pursuit of their duties?
    Do you oppose any and all military action, offensive or defensive, since all involve "violence"?

    Let us know if you condemn police officers and the military for using violence.

    For the rest of us, it's the character and intent of said violence that matters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Hooray, we're back to the "violence is all bad" nonsense.

    Do you oppose the use of violence in self-defense?
    Do you oppose the (reasonable) use of violence by police, in the pursuit of their duties?
    Do you oppose any and all military action, offensive or defensive, since all involve "violence"?

    Let us know if you condemn police officers and the military for using violence.

    For the rest of us, it's the character and intent of said violence that matters.
    I support people using self defense, I don't however support people making verbal and physical threats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Well, what do you expect them to do if they are trying to get into the bus to attack you? The group they attacked, were already in the bus, awaiting to leave. It is even clear from the video you linked, Antifa fanatics were the aggressors.

    People say a lot of shit. Show a video to back up their claim.
    The video starts with the door open and some one already outside/in the door way of the bus they were not inside waiting to leave and the conflict had already begun it does not show who the aggressors were as it doesn’t show how the conflict started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    https://twitter.com/BelowStudent/sta...19216489648130

    They opened the door and came out swinging first, my dude.
    What a surprise, Andy Ngo selectively edited his video to misrepresent what started that scuffle. I am shocked and surprised and don't know how this could have ever happened.

    Or...this seems to happens almost every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I support people using self defense, I don't however support people making verbal and physical threats.
    Wait so you oppose the proud boys now? And I thought you are in favour of free speech, what happened?
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    ANTIFA is violent, and you support them being a deterrent, therefore I felt you supported violence against people exercising their free speech. But then you said you don't support violence, so therefore I assume you don't support ANTIFA then.

    Can you please clarify?

    If I say guns kill people that doesn’t mean I support killing people with guns. If I say there has been some sort of deterrent rather that be antifa or something else that doesn’t mean I support antifa.

    I mean you would have to be incredibly stupid or disingenuous to think stating a fact means some one supports it.

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    Wow listen to the sound of all the hate and rage. Fucking crazy people, who sane person would defend this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    https://twitter.com/BelowStudent/sta...19216489648130

    They opened the door and came out swinging first, my dude.
    But who was outside acting aggressive? The group was already in the bus. Leave them alone and let them leave. Antifa was still the aggressors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    https://twitter.com/BelowStudent/sta...19216489648130

    They opened the door and came out swinging first, my dude.
    No they didn't here is the full video

    They attacked the bus, as soon as the guy open the door they rushed at the bus and went INSIDE, while someone is shouting "drag them bitches out"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv47J4jMBDA




    I mean come on guys, it's on fucking video UNEDITED and you still lie about the facts

    1:23 start there

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    When I look at this...I see hate. What do you see?







    Piece of shit conservatives getting their ass beat, like they should. This helps radicalize conservative movements, making it easier for local, state, and federal LEAs to monitor and eventually charge and incarcerate them. Their ideology led to the deaths of tens of millions of people, all started by "peaceful" rallies in the public square.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

  20. #940
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    But who was outside acting aggressive? The group was already in the bus. Leave them alone and let them leave. Antifa was still the aggressors.
    look at my reply. downnola is lied on what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    If I say guns kill people that doesn’t mean I support killing people with guns. If I say there has been some sort of deterrent rather that be antifa or something else that doesn’t mean I support antifa.

    I mean you would have to be incredibly stupid or disingenuous to think stating a fact means some one supports it.
    So do you or do you not support ANTIFA?

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