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    This is totally in character for Bernie. In case anyone forgot Bernie's analysis of the 2018 midterms.




    It's like Bernie's whole thing to point out a factor that is known to be a barrier (race; gender) and then discuss this barrier in the most offensive way possible- Helluva a way to win over all those Tucker Carlson viewers.

    Amazing how he downplayed the massive voter suppression that cost Abrams the Georgia election.

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    gotta boost those ratings with a manufactured fight!

    toss in some trolling and that's what this is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    About as useful as broad generalizations, agreed.
    Perhaps, but SD has voted Republican in 27 of 32 Presidential elections. The last Democrat to win SD was LBJ in 1964.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    gotta boost those ratings with a manufactured fight!

    toss in some trolling and that's what this is
    Am I the only one who's seemingly notice an internet trollfight spring out of nowhere between Bernie supporters and Warren supporters, each claiming the other said something - when neither did?

    Yeah, anybody else smell Borscht? I sure do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Agreed. Bernie needs to have withdrawn right after his heart attack. And the fact that he's openly giving the GOP attack points is asinine, sophomoric, and dangerously naive.
    Its always fun to see right-wing liberals, again, trying to push out the only left-wing candidate so that they can go back to their beloved status quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Why, I thought you wanted Trump to win?
    Lol! I do. That would make it easier for him to win. If Biden wants to win, he certainly should not be picking one of the radical candidates. I do not think he will pick her. He is not that dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Agreed. Bernie needs to have withdrawn right after his heart attack. And the fact that he's openly giving the GOP attack points is asinine, sophomoric, and dangerously naive.
    Reading Bernie's reply I don't think it is what he said, he stated that it's hard for a woman to win especially after Hillary which is true. As for giving GOP attack points Bernie's got built in teflon protection similar to Trump if he wins it will sure be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    gotta boost those ratings with a manufactured fight!

    toss in some trolling and that's what this is
    Media has been trying to get progressives to go after each other since the start they don't want them to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    The problem is that the status quo is what leads to these far right nutjobs getting popular(GoP in the US, Boris/ukip in the UK, SD in Sweden etc..). Trump is merely a symptom, not the disease.
    Not necessarily. Times are a changing. I'll take sane (Biden) people pushing centrist, with a dash of left and right leaning policies for the next 8-16 years until Gen X and Millennials fully dislodged Boomers from their perch on high. Then we can really start to push for some progressive policies. I'd rather start that push from a place of sanity, then after years of people the caliber of Trump shitting all over the place.

    Frankly, I'm in NJ, we vote late and it'll probably be decided by time it gets here. I'll be voting for whomever the Democrat nominate for the foreseeable future, until such a time that ranked choice becomes a thing. I'm not a Democrat, never have been, but the Republican party is untenable at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    Not necessarily. Times are a changing. I'll take sane (Biden) people pushing centrist, with a dash of left and right leaning policies for the next 8-16 years until Gen X and Millennials fully dislodged Boomers from their perch on high. Then we can really start to push for some progressive policies. I'd rather start that push from a place of sanity, then after years of people the caliber of Trump shitting all over the place.

    Frankly, I'm in NJ, we vote late and it'll probably be decided by time it gets here. I'll be voting for whomever the Democrat nominate for the foreseeable future, until such a time that ranked choice becomes a thing. I'm not a Democrat, never have been, but the Republican party is untenable at this point.
    Biden is the Boomer candidate. Biden is not the 'sane' candidate, his brain is melting just as much as Trumps, they just know how to dress him up beter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    Am I the only one who's seemingly notice an internet trollfight spring out of nowhere between Bernie supporters and Warren supporters, each claiming the other said something - when neither did?

    Yeah, anybody else smell Borscht? I sure do...
    Then you havent been paying attention frankly. The nastiness can be traced back to around when Biden went into the race. Why Biden? Well it was Bernie's first big dip in the polls. To make up for it, Bernie's campaign went after Warren.
    Basically whenever Bernie needs poll boost, they prefer to attack Warren, some strategy to consolidate the leftist primary vote.
    They've been accusing Warren of being a republican, in bed with banks, etc. If you want a timeline, read some headlines from Jacobin over the past year. They're basically Bernie' online teen fanzine, well other than Teen Vogue.


    No doubt there's some amplification from Putin bots. Putin loves to attack women as well, as he sees feminism as one of those "decadent western" things destroying his world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Biden is the Boomer candidate. Biden is not the 'sane' candidate, his brain is melting just as much as Trumps, they just know how to dress him up beter.
    They're all Boomers or hell even Silent Generation, Biden, Trump, Sanders, you could say that their "brain's are melting" each one, that's the way it's gonna be for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    They're all Boomers or hell even Silent Generation, Biden, Trump, Sanders, you could say that their "brain's are melting" each one, that's the way it's gonna be for a bit.
    Bernie mostly has the young vote behind him, so no you can't say it for all of them. And just hearing Biden speak. i.e about Cornpop, he, unlike the other candidates, is clearly not exactly at 100% mentally.
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    None of them are with it when they speak. The youth vote is meaningless in the way you mention. We're talking about their ages, not just who supports them. All three are well into the back 9 of their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Bernie mostly has the young vote behind him, so no you can't say it for all of them. And just hearing Biden speak. i.e about Cornpop, he, unlike the other candidates, is clearly not exactly at 100% mentally.
    As much as I hate to say this the young vote does not really have a big impact, young people have the lowest participation rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    As much as I hate to say this the young vote does not really have a big impact, young people have the lowest participation rate.
    That is why somebody like Bernie is a good thing to energize them. Next step should be actually making it easier to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    As much as I hate to say this the young vote does not really have a big impact, young people have the lowest participation rate.
    Because they feel like the previous generation is basically destroying the future which is true for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    That is why somebody like Bernie is a good thing to energize them. Next step should be actually making it easier to vote.
    Bernie energized them last cycle and still lost by 4 million votes in the primary. The knives are out. Media is actually starting to vet him. AND he's going to be stuck in Washington for at least 2 weeks leading up to the Iowa caucuses. Expect his polling to drop after this debate as CNN will absolutely bring his past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Because they feel like the previous generation is basically destroying the future which is true for the most part.
    Um not true. Young people dont show up for mostly laziness and not even remembering to go. Especially for primaries. Bernie has high polling numbers but i bet people straight up forget to go. Older generations especially retires just have more time on their hands to take the time to go and vote. This will be his big down fall and he wont make it through the primaries.

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    So remember how Bernie was all for getting dark money out of politics? He forgot to tell Our Revolution and Justice Dems, who are now running attack ads against Biden and Buttigieg.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justi...b650c621e447c9

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    That is why somebody like Bernie is a good thing to energize them. Next step should be actually making it easier to vote.
    The 2016 primary numbers say otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Because they feel like the previous generation is basically destroying the future which is true for the most part.
    They are not motivated to vote if that was the reason they would be motivated as voting is the only way to get power back.

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