Mega-Thread: Democratic 2020 Primaries

[PACOX]

Of course the Castro thing was stupid, and I called him out on it - but I'm not pulling my vote for him in November. Do you see the difference yet?

I said I would vote for ANY (D) but him.

[Draco-Onis]

None of them have a viable path to nomination so Im not sure why you are bringing this up???

Id say they took their time in doing whats responsible and not splitting the moderate lane just before super tuesday

They didn't drop out for free again bad optics.

[beanman12345]

https://www.wthr.com/article/chris-m...comments-women

Indirectly related, Chris Matthews is retiring apparently related to his comments towards women. I'm sure there won't be any tears shed after his "I COULD HAVE BEEN SOMEONE MARCHED INTO THE SQUARE AND SHOT!" comments.

YES YES YES!!! Won't say I'll miss him.

[Milchshake]

Why was BErnie absent from Selma? He was desperately trying to patch up CA.

New polling from CA looks bad for Bernie. A perfect storm of other candidate being viable and Joe being within single digits.

This is basically Bernie's worst case scenario. Three other candidates viable, Biden within single digits.

California Atlas/Intel Poll:
Sanders 34%
Biden 26%
Warren 15%
Bloomberg 15%
Gabbard 1%

Buttigieg 3%
Klobuchar 1%

(Poll conducted 2/24-3/2)

[JohnBrown1917]

Listen I am not fan of Bloomberg but you are missing the big picture Trump is openly racist with a cabinet filled with white supremacists. At the very least for optics Bloomberg would not put those types of people in charge implementing policies going after minorities and immigrants as we speak.

Yes, I actually very much think he would. He has done it before, nothing suggests he changed.

[Inuyaki]

Meanwhile, the Bernie attacks will all be about him being a socialist, and that socialism is bad. This is not only a vague attack, but is worrisome in that the first part.....is true. Bernie can't deny being a (democratic) socialist. So instead, you're left to explain away the nebulous fear of socialism and the remnants of Cold War ideological battles. Which can be much more difficult.

tbf if the American people still believe that "socialism" is bad after months of presidential campaigning, the country does not deserve anything better than Trump.

Also you can use facts there too. Just point to other "socialist" countries.
Medicare for all could get a huge boost, if the American death toll to Covid-19 is as high as I think it will be. You are still at the beginning and that number is rising pretty fast. Meanwhile in Europe we have a pretty low death toll so far except for Italy, because they got hit the hardest and fastest out of all western countries.

[JohnBrown1917]

Do you really think he will put people like Stephen Miller in charge like Trump? worse case scenario you bought yourself a few years while Bloomberg builds his machine meanwhile Trump's monsters are eating away at our rights as we speak.

Trump is also senile, while Bloomberg still actually has a working brain.. but with the same ideology.

[beanman12345]

Trump is also senile, while Bloomberg still actually has a working brain.. but with the same ideology.

idk if he's senile, he is mentally retarded, but he's been that way his whole life.

[Inuyaki]

idk if he's senile, he is mentally retarded, but he's been that way his whole life.

No, he is actually senile.
Just watch interviews from 20-30 years ago. You could understand that man. He was always a pos, but he had a functioning brain back then
(not saying he was really intelligent, that indeed he never was)

[NED funded]

They didn't drop out for free again bad optics.

The bad optics are only in your mind dude

[Draco-Onis]

Trump is also senile, while Bloomberg still actually has a working brain.. but with the same ideology.

Trump is much worse the guy had Sebastian Gorka as adviser FFS.

[beanman12345]

No, he is actually senile.
Just watch interviews from 20-30 years ago. You could understand that man. He was always a pos, but he had a functioning brain back then
(not saying he was really intelligent, that indeed he never was)

I have and it's clear he didn't have a functioning brain even then.

[cubby]

No, he is actually senile.
Just watch interviews from 20-30 years ago. You could understand that man. He was always a pos, but he had a functioning brain back then
(not saying he was really intelligent, that indeed he never was)

Agreed. Something definitely happened to him mentally. The contrast is stark.

[Draco-Onis]

The bad optics are only in your mind dude

And in the mind of anyone with two brain cells or more, I understand your view at least you want 4 more years of Trump because you think he will topple China or something.

[cubby]

I have and it's clear he didn't have a functioning brain even then.

You really haven't. Watching interviews from even 20 years ago with him, he was putting together multiple paragraph responses, that made sense, and flowed reasonably well. And that was during interviews without prepared remarks, with varying subjects.

Now - every paragraph is a meandering word-salad.

[beanman12345]

You really haven't. Watching interviews from even 20 years ago with him, he was putting together multiple paragraph responses, that made sense, and flowed reasonably well. And that was during interviews without prepared remarks, with varying subjects.

Now - every paragraph is a meandering word-salad.

who gives a fuck about interviews. you think a guy with a functioning brain can bankrupt several casino's? get out of here.

[JohnBrown1917]

Trump is much worse the guy had Sebastian Gorka as adviser FFS.

Nothing is stopping Bloomberg from getting terrible advisors/yesman.

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who gives a fuck about interviews. you think a guy with a functioning brain can bankrupt several casino's? get out of here.

He bankrupted them on purpose, to be fair. Just so he could transfer his own debts into them and declare bankruptcy.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

Do you really think you're going to get Republicans to cross over for someone more liberal than Biden?

Yes, because I think most people are more fed up with establishment politics than anything else. Everything bad that is happening is being blamed on the establishment, hence why a complete moron who lacked any reasonable qualifications was able to win the Presidency in 2016 simply because he ran his campaign as being anti-establishment.

Between Biden and Sanders, I think that Sanders is the stronger candidate in the primary against Trump. That the DNC seems to have failed to learn a damn thing from 2016 is not going to improve Biden's chances in the general election if Biden secures the nomination.

I expect the general election to play out as "Obama's VP vs anti-establishment" if it is Biden vs Trump. If it is Bernie vs Trump I expect to see "anti-establishment vs populist fear-mongering about socialism".


I'd support any of the candidates still in the race rather than vote for Trump, but overall I think Bernie has the best chance of winning a general election against Trump. I think the DNC has alienated a lot of progressives already, and that perception is likely to intensify at the Convention.

[JohnBrown1917]

But what you're arguing is that "the GOP will be unfairly mean!" - and they will, to whomever wins the nod. They will have the same type of attacks ads against Sanders as well - even worst because the socialism angle is brutal. BRUTAL. I'm already seeing stuff like that against Sanders on social media. Do you really think the GOP won't hammer that home. Do you really think you're going to get Republicans to cross over for someone more liberal than Biden?

Your Bloomberg comments really shows that you aren't all the way there. Trump out first. Period. Vote for the (D) regardless.

Trying to appeal to the far right(GOP) means everybody loses.

[Drutt]

who gives a fuck about interviews. you think a guy with a functioning brain can bankrupt several casino's? get out of here.

How he bankrupted them is part of the riddle there.

He transferred his significant debts from other ventures into them, then left the investors high and dry when the casino went bankrupt.

Even in his prime, Trump wasn't an intelligent man. Now, though, he's just as mediocre intellectually and has a dementia cherry on top of it. The difference is stark and undeniable versus earlier footage of him.