View Poll Results: Who are you rooting for to claim QUEEN AZSHARA?

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  • Method [EU]

    325 54.71%
  • Limit [US]

    176 29.63%
  • Big Dumb Guild [US]

    6 1.01%
  • ANY ALLIANCE GUILD

    49 8.25%
  • OTHER

    38 6.40%
  1. #2901
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    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    Preach is very passionate about the game and about raiding, and you could see that in his casting. He did an incredible job engaging people into watching a raid boss. It's a shame that Blizzard and the mindless Preach haters have an unjustified prejudice against him.
    I mostly don't agree with his content or his opinions, but i do enjoy him as a commentator, he did a very good job casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    Blizzard's "prejudice" is entirely justified on him broadcasting an exploit to thousands of viewers, probably causing many other people to get banned. You don't ban someone for 30 days, have them *agree* with the ban and yet be considered "prejudiced".
    That's not what he's talking about - Blizz have had it in for Preach ever since he went in HARD on how bad the GCD change was - and we know he was right because of Blizz gradually reversing that change over time

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennett View Post
    question now is: Do we think limit will go for world 2nd or will morale just completely die
    go go go china!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpySnowflake View Post
    Really hope Paragon v2.0 would emerge to knock Method off the perch. Getting boring. Still - gz!
    yeah basically this but i will say that the overall presentation from both Method's & Redbull's streams were polished production-wise, and as for the casters, i preferred the Redbull streams, mostly because of information being passed. Great event in total tho, nice work !
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    Blizzard's "prejudice" is entirely justified on him broadcasting an exploit to thousands of viewers, probably causing many other people to get banned. You don't ban someone for 30 days, have them *agree* with the ban and yet be considered "prejudiced".
    That's exactly why it's prejudice. He has never casted before yet he is being judged based on some isolated misunderstanding in the past, and not on incredible work he has been doing in the last two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Question now is: do we think limit will go for world 2nd or will morale just completely die
    Their strat isn't bad, it just isn't likely that they'll get the kill this reset. They're effectively hard capped by gear right now. It's possible they have the stars align and get a perfect pull and down it but it doesn't seem likely especially with WF off the table.

    It has to be massively disappointing to put all your chips on the wrong strat, especially because there is no way to plan around it ahead of time. Method banked on a P4 burn, Limit had a safer, slow and steady wins the race approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wramp View Post
    yeah basically this but i will say that the overall presentation from both Method's & Redbull's streams were polished production-wise, and as for the casters, i preferred the Redbull streams, mostly because of information being passed. Great event in total tho, nice work !
    I agree. Redbull's night crew was amazing. Tons of laughs and everyone just having a good time. I hope Redbull does another event next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    You're not wrong, but the sheer number of fans is so staggering on one side compared to the other that it just makes it so much worse. But it's also just a worse problem all around it seems with e-sports. Like, when my NBA team loses and I go visit the reddit, it's generally WAY more chill. Congratulations from other teams, a little bit of friendly banter, but nothing like this. It's exhausting. It makes it hard to choose a "team" in the WF races because everyone is so damn toxic that I don't identify with any fanbase.
    The best way to watch both streams was to ignore the chat entirely (which has the added bonus of larger PoV). The only useful thing in there were progress updates/replays. Other than that, it was either typical Twitch spam or insults towards (whoever was losing at the time).

    I guess I'm old but I also found it incredibly weird to hear casters with all those "let's get some (monkas? pogs? whateverthefucks) in chat!!!". I don't believe it happened that often back in BoD or maybe the chat pandering only gets this obnoxious in two week races.
    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    That's exactly why it's prejudice. He has never casted before yet he is being judged based on some isolated misunderstanding in the past, and not on incredible work he has been doing in the last two weeks.
    How is it prejudice? For Blizzard, this is a fairly serious offence. Streaming exploits to a huge number of people is not something they can just ignore and pretend they're cool with the guy. This is all on him, not them - he thought no one would get banned, he was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    That's not what he's talking about - Blizz have had it in for Preach ever since he went in HARD on how bad the GCD change was - and we know he was right because of Blizz gradually reversing that change over time
    I think people are overestimating the "prejudice" blizz has against Preach. He just wasn't invited to one creator summit due to advertising bug abuse, but otherwise I'm sure they are in contact and on good terms. He's doing good work promoting the game after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otaXephon View Post
    Their strat isn't bad, it just isn't likely that they'll get the kill this reset.
    It's kind of the same story as Jaina. They are using the much safer strat but that doesn't win you a WF. It seems like the meta, unless Blizzard changes things up, is to always focus on burning the boss in the last phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    The best way to watch both streams was to ignore the chat entirely (which has the added bonus of larger PoV). The only useful thing in there were progress updates/replays. Other than that, it was either typical Twitch spam or insults towards (whoever was losing at the time).
    I shouldn't have to do that, though. I want to share ideas and thoughts with fellow viewers, and interact with the casters when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redroniksre View Post
    I mostly don't agree with his content or his opinions, but i do enjoy him as a commentator, he did a very good job casting.
    Yeah, I also feel Preach was one of the best if not the best caster again. He's passionate, knowledgeable and has some high quality bants. I certainly hope that he comes back for the next tier

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    The best way to watch both streams was to ignore the chat entirely (which has the added bonus of larger PoV). The only useful thing in there were progress updates/replays. Other than that, it was either typical Twitch spam or insults towards (whoever was losing at the time).

    I guess I'm old but I also found it incredibly weird to hear casters with all those "let's get some (monkas? pogs? whateverthefucks) in chat!!!". I don't believe it happened that often back in BoD or maybe the chat pandering only gets this obnoxious in two week races.How is it prejudice? For Blizzard, this is a fairly serious offence. Streaming exploits to a huge number of people is not something they can just ignore and pretend they're cool with the guy. This is all on him, not them - he thought no one would get banned, he was wrong.
    It's prejudice because people are hating on Preach casting when they've never even seen him cast before. Despite all the days and hours of good work he's put into it.

  13. #2913
    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Method are just thoroughly better man, one less day of progression and still killed azshara with fewer pulls than Limit. Haters should quit being salty
    Err the time and pull advantage meant zero after the nerf's. Absolutely nothing. There was 4 guilds pretty much all stuck at the same point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpySnowflake View Post
    Really hope Paragon v2.0 would emerge to knock Method off the perch. Getting boring. Still - gz!
    No guild with the skills or next level strats exist.

    Even method's rag 25 heroic strats were so bad compared to Paragon which is why Paragon won by over a week, nobody used methods strat to kill it but it was the norm to do it the paragon way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    It's kind of the same story as Jaina. They are using the much safer strat but that doesn't win you a WF. It seems like the meta, unless Blizzard changes things up, is to always focus on burning the boss in the last phase.
    It's not meta when only 1 guild does it.

    All guilds could have tried cutting healers, why would you even say "unless Blizzard changes things up". What's there to "change up"?

    Not every guild can do this boss with Method's strat, they have the best healers in the world in their roster.

    This was just perfect play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    It's kind of the same story as Jaina. They are using the much safer strat but that doesn't win you a WF. It seems like the meta, unless Blizzard changes things up, is to always focus on burning the boss in the last phase.
    Well, they tried to prevent that with Jaina's Iceblock, but forgot to make it active during the intermission. It would have prevented the zerg for at least one week if they did it "correctly". Who knows, maybe they'll try again - perhaps in a "boss will Bloodlust the same time you do, so your tanks won't survive this phase" kind of way.

    Boss reacting to major cooldowns is a neat idea anyway, they should try it more often. Maybe detonate the barrier if it gets used or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kers View Post
    It's not meta when only 1 guild does it.

    All guilds could have tried cutting healers, why would you even say "unless Blizzard changes things up". What's there to "change up"?

    Not every guild can do this boss with Method's strat, they have the best healers in the world in their roster.

    This was just perfect play.
    I mean Limit didn't even bother to try it, maybe because they were too deep in but still.

  18. #2918
    Method proves yet again they are the best guild in WoWs history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kers View Post
    It's not meta when only 1 guild does it.

    All guilds could have tried cutting healers, why would you even say "unless Blizzard changes things up". What's there to "change up"?

    Not every guild can do this boss with Method's strat, they have the best healers in the world in their roster.

    This was just perfect play.
    Not just 2 healers, but boomkins, spriests and even tanks doing some healing when it is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaPe View Post
    Well, they tried to prevent that with Jaina's Iceblock, but forgot to make it active during the intermission. It would have prevented the zerg for at least one week if they did it "correctly". Who knows, maybe they'll try again - perhaps in a "boss will Bloodlust the same time you do, so your tanks won't survive this phase" kind of way.
    Less predictability would be nice. When was the last time we had a proper awesome "secret phase" that forces guilds to adapt?
    I loved this race but I hate the fight. Even on Heroic Azshara just feels like ass. Really not looking forward to Mythic.

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