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    Well they wouldn't be able to sponsor the countless militias if the world put sanctions on them. We've put sanctions on NK although they don't have any sponsored militia operating outside NK but we completely forgot about Iran for some reason ... this world is managed by monkeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEEnr2 View Post
    yh no they shouldn't, Palestinian people already living like they are in prison.If there were no Hamas im pretty sure that Israel will simply take over rest of Palestine areas and make them they own like they have done in the past and still doing now.
    No they wouldn't. It was them who attacked Israel in 1948. Also caused the Yon Kippur war. ( if I spelled that right. ) And there was another one I think in the 1970s? Which they attacked Israel again. Israel just finished them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    No they wouldn't. It was them who attacked Israel in 1948. Also caused the Yon Kippur war. ( if I spelled that right. ) And there was another one I think in the 1970s? Which they attacked Israel again. Israel just finished them.
    Just to clarify, are you trying to say that the Palestinians initiated hostilities in each of those wars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    No they wouldn't. It was them who attacked Israel in 1948. Also caused the Yon Kippur war. ( if I spelled that right. ) And there was another one I think in the 1970s? Which they attacked Israel again. Israel just finished them.
    70s was Yon Kippur. 67 I think is the one you're thinking. That was more stupid posturing mostly from Nasser spooked Israel enough for get it to strike first. There are thoughts that Nasser was likely not going to attack and was just trying to show off internally and to the Soviets. But Israel couldn't take that risk. Since Syria was allied to Egypt they were also attacked. Jordan was left alone until Nasser was able to convince the king of Jordan that Israeli jets were his own destroying Israeli air force meaning Jordan got involved in a "If we don't get involved it might cause issues at home.".

    But yeah even if Israel struck first Nasser forced their hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkined View Post
    Just to clarify, are you trying to say that the Palestinians initiated hostilities in each of those wars?
    Look I'm not a fan of Israel of many of their actions. But in the map the 48-67 palestinian territories were not independent but were part of Egypt and Jordan respectively. Their actions were to blame for the loss. Since then the ultra orthodox jews who rushed there enmasse have been an issue and should be reigned in by Israel to help bring a working palestinian state. But to say Israel is solely to blame is just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    70s was Yon Kippur. 67 I think is the one you're thinking. That was more stupid posturing mostly from Nasser spooked Israel enough for get it to strike first. There are thoughts that Nasser was likely not going to attack and was just trying to show off internally and to the Soviets. But Israel couldn't take that risk. Since Syria was allied to Egypt they were also attacked. Jordan was left alone until Nasser was able to convince the king of Jordan that Israeli jets were his own destroying Israeli air force meaning Jordan got involved in a "If we don't get involved it might cause issues at home.".

    But yeah even if Israel struck first Nasser forced their hands.

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    Look I'm not a fan of Israel of many of their actions. But in the map the 48-67 palestinian territories were not independent but were part of Egypt and Jordan respectively. Their actions were to blame for the loss. Since then the ultra orthodox jews who rushed there enmasse have been an issue and should be reigned in by Israel to help bring a working palestinian state. But to say Israel is solely to blame is just dumb.
    I don't think it should be too hard to differentiate the people living in what was Palestine and the governments/militaries of the various Arab states involved in those wars. But that might be calling for a recognition of some level of nuance beyond what most people are capable.

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    The stupidity of statement really takes a cake, gotta give them that.
    But people, maybe try to realise that Saudi Arabia is just one side of that whole mess. Just because Iran is not with them does not mean they are to be praised...

    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    They're not close to peace because Israel wants to eradicate any Palestinian land.
    Get a grip on reality. If they wanted, they would have long time ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by minteK917 View Post

    Wow Iran stop it!
    Oh hey look, it is the old bullshit picture again! It literally is not true.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by freefolk View Post
    Do you think Iran should stop sponsoring terrorism in the Middle East?
    If the US wasn’t bought and paid for by the Israelis, Iran would be producing porn and eating McDonalds

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    Meanwhile the country that spreads the idealogy that is responsible for 99% of all islamic terrorism, Saudia Arabia( Wahhabism) is not a problem at all? Iran does not even follow the same sect, let alone the sub-sect that Saudia Arabia supports(and banning everything else).
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Boycotting Israel is supporting terrorism by proxy.
    Left-wing idealogies are anti-fascist by nature.
    Only racists support the GoP or any other far right/fascist party .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Meanwhile the country that spreads the idealogy that is responsible for 99% of all islamic terrorism, Saudia Arabia( Wahhabism) is not a problem at all? Iran does not even follow the same sect, let alone the sub-sect that Saudia Arabia supports(and banning everything else).
    Well the Saudis have Kushner in their back pocket so they don't count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breslin View Post
    If the US wasn’t bought and paid for by the Israelis, Iran would be producing porn and eating McDonalds
    If Israelis/Jews would not exist, they would be invented

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    If Israelis/Jews would not exist, they would be invented
    I mean Israel was invented, every country was invented. However the fact that the Israeli government is allowed to lobby the US congress under the auspice of AIPAC and be shielded from any criticism by crying anti-semitism has worsened the peace process. The unfettered support of Israel has led to politicians like Bibi who are more or less Generals. Bibi will keep that country and his people safe, but he doesn't seem concerned with peace. The middle east will never see peace as long as its one sided, which American intervention ensures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freefolk View Post
    The only difference between Iran and Saudi Arabia is one is Sunni and the other is Shiite.
    i'd say iran is not asbad as Arabia especially on womans rights
    woman have been able to drive in Iran forever and they go to university in masses
    while they can't leave the house without a escort in Arabia, and are finally allowed to drive since last year only

    slight difference

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by i9erek View Post
    Well they wouldn't be able to sponsor the countless militias if the world put sanctions on them. We've put sanctions on NK although they don't have any sponsored militia operating outside NK but we completely forgot about Iran for some reason ... this world is managed by monkeys.
    Yeah, who do they think they are to think they can just do that? The US? Saudia Arabia?
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Boycotting Israel is supporting terrorism by proxy.
    Left-wing idealogies are anti-fascist by nature.
    Only racists support the GoP or any other far right/fascist party .

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