1. #40281
    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    What does "major" mean? I doubt we will get a new class.
    People are just grasping for straws at this point.

  2. #40282
    They might be redesigning how covenant abilities are given out, after the loud criticisms of the system back at Blizzcon and since then, just as an example.

    Not sure why anyone is ruling this out...

  3. #40283
    They must have known how bad the azerite system was since alpha and thats why it only got to us at the end of beta. Wonder when did they start working on essences to fix the situation.

  4. #40284
    Probably at launch lol.

  5. #40285
    Quote Originally Posted by Clickbait Mick View Post
    They might be redesigning how covenant abilities are given out, after the loud criticisms of the system back at Blizzcon and since then, just as an example.

    Not sure why anyone is ruling this out...
    I am not sure what that would actually achieve. As mentioned before on this thread, if they delay the Alpha by 5 weeks to change a system that would have been changed within 5 weeks of the Alpha anyways then they simply wasted time for cheap PR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeir View Post
    They must have known how bad the azerite system was since alpha and thats why it only got to us at the end of beta. Wonder when did they start working on essences to fix the situation.
    Why in the world would they give us a bad Azerite system to begin with when the far more reasonable explanation is that the idea was poorly thought out and not given enough room to develop?

  6. #40286
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Why in the world would they give us a bad Azerite system to begin with when the far more reasonable explanation is that the idea was poorly thought out and not given enough room to develop?
    It was too late to change the course.

  7. #40287
    Quote Originally Posted by Clickbait Mick View Post
    I don't buy that COVID-19 is delaying the alpha. They just went home this week. Ion said that SL news will be "really soon" back in early Feb.

    I think they are doing major redesign of expansion systems and that's what is taking so long.
    I think they might consider how corruptions worked and tries to bring a new system to the game that would work during leveling which is probably why they've delayed the game

  8. #40288
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Considering how slow they are to reacting and fixing _anything_, the backlash to ''alt friendly''ness of 8.3 and Corruption might have forced their hand in seriously re-evaluating what their ideas are.
    The adjustments to 8.3 have been some of the fastest I've seen Blizzard integrally change a patch WITHIN the same patch, I don't know. It took an entire half patch for us to get buyable legendaries in 7.3.5.

    Honestly the reason we might not have SL yet is because they still have people working on improving 8.3 instead of completely abandoning it, which is what many people hoped they would do. They still want to somewhat salvage the end of BFA instead of letting content drought completely kill interest until Q4.

  9. #40289
    It's going to happen anyway. Just abandon BfA and move on, there's nothing they can do to it to make it last... what, 8-10 more months?

  10. #40290
    Quote Originally Posted by Isiolia View Post
    I think they might consider how corruptions worked and tries to bring a new system to the game that would work during leveling which is probably why they've delayed the game
    Being able to incorporate leveling more into the game beyond something quickly you do as a nuisance that funnels you into the "real" game at 60 would be amazing, but I don't expect such design from Ion and co.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    It's going to happen anyway. Just abandon BfA and move on, there's nothing they can do to it to make it last... what, 8-10 more months?
    We're not waiting 8-10 more months. Probably 4-5 maximum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    We're not waiting 8-10 more months. Probably 4-5 maximum.
    Shadowlands isn't coming out in 4-5 months.

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    PTR just started an update? I cant remember If i updated it yesterday. Is it a new one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    PTR just started an update? I cant remember If i updated it yesterday. Is it a new one?
    It got a CMD update hours ago.

  15. #40295
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    We're not waiting 8-10 more months. Probably 4-5 maximum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    We're not waiting 8-10 more months. Probably 4-5 maximum.
    I appreciate your optimism in these grim dark times.

  17. #40297
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Shadowlands isn't coming out in 4-5 months.
    My bet is post Blizzcon release.
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    What if some people already have alpha but it's under NDA hmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Alodi View Post
    What if some people already have alpha but it's under NDA hmm
    They do and it is. The NDA is included in the contract when they take the job at Blizzard.

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    My original prediction was pre-patch in September, and release either very VERY late October, or November.

    But now? Nothing makes sense anymore...
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