9.0 General Discussion

[Aeluron Lightsong]

6.2 to Legion took 435 days

8.3 to Shadowlands is 286 days or 287 days.

[gunner_recall]

6.2 to Legion took 435 days

8.3 to Shadowlands is 286 days or 287 days.

Yes but to be fair, 2020 has lasted approximately 15 years.

[TigTone]

Yes but to be fair, 2020 has lasted approximately 15 years.

15 years? It has been half a century at least. I’m using a cane now.

[SirBeef]

Shadowlands is factually the longest any WoW expansion has taken...

Your 2 cents isn't even worth that much...

Why do you people ignore or forget that Legion was actively being developed alongside WoD. Legion took nearly 4 years. No it wasn't in conception phases or pre development. World building, items, quests for Order Halls and the like was happening when world building, items, Garrison stuffs and the like were being developed.

They talked about this openly. They dou less their staff just prior for this reason. Had issues getting new hires up to speed, which hurt WoD development, hence the cuts. But they needed the extra time for the OH campaigns and all the artifact stuffs.

[Hitei]

They're just driving it home how bad Sylvanas and her loyalists are now

https://www.wowhead.com/news=317869/...ands-pre-patch

Her banner is fallen in the prepatch Argent grounds. All others remain standing.

I already see a post , "a ghoul must've pushed it over"

I'm curious what will happen with their flags and banners in general. It kinda seems like they should get a new crest, since the current one is entirely themed around Sylvanas and her dark rangers.

Yes but to be fair, 2020 has lasted approximately 15 years.

2021 is gonna make 2020 look like 2019.

[Beloren]

2021 is gonna make 2020 look like 2019.

You have no idea how right you are.

you really do not.

[gunner_recall]

2021 is gonna make 2020 look like 2019.

Yeah, but I'm in denial about that.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yeah, but I'm in denial about that.

You're wrong


I hope

[gunner_recall]

You're wrong


I hope

I haven't had a great track record this week so I probably am.

[huth]

Yes but to be fair, 2020 has lasted approximately 15 years.

That's hardly Blizzard's fault, though.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Nice little interaction. I think these "Stay awhile and listen" have been a great addition to WoW.

[Very rare pepe]

I mean...if you wanna talk about that, they also slapped Emerald Dream into Legion with Valsharah and the raid about it. They tried to just hand wave it away. I'm hoping they won't abandon these stories in the future but the fact that they just kind of threw it into there doesn't bode well for future expansions.

I do feel like blizzard have wasted some pretty cool areas that could have been used better. The emerald dream, Nazjatar, Mechagon, Nyalotha all wasted in just 2 expansion, the latter 3 coming in BFA, also I believe Zuldazar and Kul tiras were wasted too an extent.
Nyalotha was the biggest let down for me out of those.

[gunner_recall]

That's hardly Blizzard's fault, though.

As far as we know

I do feel like blizzard have wasted some pretty cool areas that could have been used better. The emerald dream, Nazjatar, Mechagon, Nyalotha all wasted in just 2 expansion, the latter 3 coming in BFA, also I believe Zuldazar and Kul tiras were wasted too an extent.
Nyalotha was the biggest let down for me out of those.

I think Mechagon was fine as a small area. I mean, it's just a tiny island. But yeah, putting Zuldazar and Kul Tiras in the same expansion feels like it's limiting the experience. Nazjatar could have been it's own expansion, Emerald Dream could have been it's own expansion, Nyalotha I think works as a zone/raid but there definitely could have been a Black Empire expansion with Nyalotha as like the end game Tanaan area.

I don't necessarily think that they'll never come back to these areas in future expansions but I also think if they did that, there would be some bad feedback for "reusing" areas.

[Hitei]

I do feel like blizzard have wasted some pretty cool areas that could have been used better. The emerald dream, Nazjatar, Mechagon, Nyalotha all wasted in just 2 expansion, the latter 3 coming in BFA, also I believe Zuldazar and Kul tiras were wasted too an extent.
Nyalotha was the biggest let down for me out of those.

Zandalar and KT being small continents was pretty much the maximum they warranted. KT wasn't supposed to be anything besides a pretty small mountainous island with a city state on it, and Zandalar was supposed to be mostly sunk.

[Cosmic Janitor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=zjzJ9rtqXYI&feature=emb_title
Nice little interaction. I think these "Stay awhile and listen" have been a great addition to WoW.

Agreed. Anything that comes with voice acting tends to be nice for world building and this implementation is nice compared to the random event triggers that they started using in legion, which often play at unopportune moments when you miss most of it.

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As far as we know


I think Mechagon was fine as a small area. I mean, it's just a tiny island.

I think they used it deliberately as part of the side show of a patch because the theme is very .. draining in a high fantasy setting to begin with. That being said, after suramar the way the city porper was handled was extremely underwhelming. They were there for generations so I would have expected a way larger city with more build up when it comes to infiltrating the city itself, before we dethrone mechagon. But they kinda blew(dripped) their whole load on the dungeon. At the end of the day it also suffers from "story done, yet we still occupy mostly the rebel base" issues as well which is kinda terrible for immersion and always has been.

[gunner_recall]

I think they used it deliberately as part of the side show of a patch because the theme is very .. draining in a high fantasy setting to begin with. That being said, after suramar the way the city porper was handled was extremely underwhelming. They were there for generations so I would have expected a way larger city with more build up when it comes to infiltrating the city itself, before we dethrone mechagon. But they kinda blew(dripped) their whole load on the dungeon. At the end of the day it also suffers from "story done, yet we still occupy mostly the rebel base" issues as well which is kinda terrible for immersion and always has been.

I don't feel like there was enough of a story for Mechagon for a full expansion but on Suramar, I agree. I understand not wasting all your resources to create an entire city but at the same time...I don't think anyone would have been upset about that either.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I don't feel like there was enough of a story for Mechagon for a full expansion but on Suramar, I agree. I understand not wasting all your resources to create an entire city but at the same time...I don't think anyone would have been upset about that either.

Oh no, clearly a full expansion would be way too much, but it wasn't even the main attraction of a patch. It was the side dish next to nazjatar. And fankly Karazhan > mechagon as well, as far as mega dungeons go . It wasn't bad and I thank <insert random deity> for every workshop key we get, but it could have been more.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Oh no, clearly a full expansion would be way too much, but it wasn't even the main attraction of a patch. It was the side dish next to nazjatar. And fankly Karazhan > mechagon as well, as far as mega dungeons go . It wasn't bad and I thank <insert random deity> for every workshop key we get, but it could have been more.

Shoulda gone all out, yeah 2 extra months of BFA to develop SL but..more stuff is nice. I like stuff.

[gunner_recall]

Oh no, clearly a full expansion would be way too much, but it wasn't even the main attraction of a patch. It was the side dish next to nazjatar. And fankly Karazhan > mechagon as well, as far as mega dungeons go . It wasn't bad and I thank <insert random deity> for every workshop key we get, but it could have been more.

Mechagon did a lot of things right but it definitely needed more. You're right about it being the side dish to the main course, but even then I enjoyed Mechagon and spent WAY more time there than I did in Nazjatar. Which is sad because I was so hyped for Nazjatar.

[Shandodo]

Ready for Music and Login Screen this week....

... Also ready to be disappointed cause it doesn't happen.