9.0 General Discussion

[Maxilian]

i get to tell my friends they are cool once an hour

Only once an hour, if you do more than that, Blizzard will hit you with the ban hammer and will take your friends away to work on a mine.

[otaXephon]

Classic's layering is just a variation of Sharding which was introduced in WoD. And WoD had everybody in the same zone as well before they split off to Frostfire and Shadowmoon. Problems didn't really happen until you had to zone into your Garrison, so i don't expect many issues here, especially due the lack of scenarios involved.

WoD's version of sharding was so fucked the problems it caused represent one of the only times in the last decade that Blizzard gave players free game time. This technology wasn't perfected until Legion.

[razorpax]

Only once an hour, if you do more than that, Blizzard will hit you with the ban hammer and will take your friends away to work on a mine.

I think he literally meant the kyrian ability to tell your friends they are cool with the steward

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18 hours boys

I geared up an alt and got the bag drop on my main

[Redzonetode]

Do the daily, random and unranked battle grounds, still reward conquest for a win?

If not, does that mean the Gladiator (not elite) appearance is now locked behind rated pvp?

Can anyone with beta answer this for me?

[RobertoCarlos]

Just pre-ordered the epic version and only paid 20. had the other 100 from token gold back when I was playing BFA.

Waited till the last day because why not. Feels good.

[Lahis]

WoD's version of sharding was so fucked the problems it caused represent one of the only times in the last decade that Blizzard gave players free game time. This technology wasn't perfected until Legion.

It wasn't zone sharding. It was the garrison instance that fucked over the servers. Every zone worked fine, but garrisons being central to the levelling progression fucked things over for blizz.

[Sondrelk]

We're truly in the final stretch now. Time to start preparing all the snacks and nibbles for the evening.

[otaXephon]

It wasn't zone sharding. It was the garrison instance that fucked over the servers. Every zone worked fine, but garrisons being central to the levelling progression fucked things over for blizz.

Eh -- many people got stuck at the Garrison but I distinctly remember ridiculous lag in Frostfire Ridge and questing, in general, was miserable the first few days. Legion's launch was much smoother by comparison.

[huth]

WoD's version of sharding was so fucked the problems it caused represent one of the only times in the last decade that Blizzard gave players free game time. This technology wasn't perfected until Legion.

Garrisons weren't sharded, they were Scenarios. Sharding worked just fine in Tanaan. Problems happened when everybody, their dog, their dog's dog and their tapeworms each had to go into individual instances and completely overloaded the instance servers, which was compounded by there being a massive surge in active players around release.

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Eh -- many people got stuck at the Garrison but I distinctly remember ridiculous lag in Frostfire Ridge and questing, in general, was miserable the first few days. Legion's launch was much smoother by comparison.

Because there was a crapton of players sitting in front of the garrisons. Questing also had issues since many big questlines had scenarios as capstones, that naturally also failed to load for most people.

[otaXephon]

Garrisons weren't sharded, they were Scenarios. Sharding worked just fine in Tanaan. Problems happened when everybody, their dog, their dog's dog and their tapeworms each had to go into individual instances and completely overloaded the instance servers, which was compounded by there being a massive surge in active players around release.

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Because there was a crapton of players sitting in front of the garrisons. Questing also had issues since many big questlines had scenarios as capstones, that naturally also failed to load for most people.

The overarching point being that while WoD introduced sharding, it wasn't really put into successful use until Legion launch. I wouldn't consider WoD's launch to be much more populated than Legion's, either, since Chilton famously bragged that Legion's subscribers were back above the venerable 10M mark.

[Toybox]

The PvP gearing changes have taken my hype from a 7 to a solid 8+ I'm glad they're listening to the feedback, even if they're very deadset on certain things that I don't agree with.

[Sondrelk]

The PvP gearing changes have taken my hype from a 7 to a solid 8+ I'm glad they're listening to the feedback, even if they're very deadset on certain things that I don't agree with.

I think you will likely always have to accept something you don't agree with. The important aspect is whether you trust the developers to know better than you what is best for the game, which hopefully Shadowlands manages to convince players of.

[huth]

The overarching point being that while WoD introduced sharding, it wasn't really put into successful use until Legion launch. I wouldn't consider WoD's launch to be much more populated than Legion's, either, since Chilton famously bragged that Legion's subscribers were back above the venerable 10M mark.

Then why did none of the issues happen in Tanaan? Frostfire already had significantly less players since it was Horde only. And Legion quickly distributed players over a far larger set of areas, so sharding didn't play nearly as much of a role.

[Toybox]

I think you will likely always have to accept something you don't agree with. The important aspect is whether you trust the developers to know better than you what is best for the game, which hopefully Shadowlands manages to convince players of.

Let's not get into it - It's not a time for negativity They might be doing some stuff I hard disagree with, but they're definitely doing a lot of things right as well. I'm especially looking forward to player power progression being much more time considerate than previous expansions - especially with the Steam Autumn sale reportedly landing today The BG changes, a lot of the class changes, new dungeon & raid content... It's gonna be a good time.

I'm cautiously optimistic for Shadowlands as a whole, which is the absolute polar opposite of how I was after the BfA beta & just a few weeks of that expansion going live, so hey! Good times ahead for all, hopefully!

[Sarethion]

Well, this is interesting:

https://www.wowhead.com/news=319365/...tion-imbalance

It reminds me of how they approached the level squish - at first it was a hard "no", then "yeah, we see that there is a problem, but it would suck to lose a bunch of your levels" and then we got it, and... the sky didn't break (oh, wait), people didn't whine too much about it and right now most are probably used to being level 50.

I think the same will happen with cross-faction play. Blizzard will eventually add it to the game, some people will be unhappy, but most will just be happy that it's easier to find groups and that they can play the faction they like without worrying about population.

[Gorsameth]

Well, this is interesting:

https://www.wowhead.com/news=319365/...tion-imbalance

It reminds me of how they approached the level squish - at first it was a hard "no", then "yeah, we see that there is a problem, but it would suck to lose a bunch of your levels" and then we got it, and... the sky didn't break (oh, wait), people didn't whine too much about it and right now most are probably used to being level 50.

I think the same will happen with cross-faction play. Blizzard will eventually add it to the game, some people will be unhappy, but most will just be happy that it's easier to find groups and that they can play the faction they like without worrying about population.

If the trend keeps continuing the community will solve it for them, but there being no organised PvE left on Alliance (outside of Oceania where apparently the trend is reversed).

[huth]

Well, this is interesting:

Frankly, the only thing i don't like about it is his bullshit excuse. For how integral it supposedly is, it's odd how players are apparently the only ones that can't go and cooperate when the fecal matter hits the air stirrer. Again. Unless it's PvP, then all you need to do is wear a mask and nobody will bat an eye.

[Lahis]

Yeah, faction imbalance is self solving problem. Soon there is no Alliance left.

[huth]

If the trend keeps continuing the community will solve it for them, but there being no organised PvE left on Alliance (outside of Oceania where apparently the trend is reversed).

It's only a matter of time before they won't have any other choice if they want both factions to be able to participate.

Yeah, faction imbalance is self solving problem. Soon there is no Alliance left.

That's not really solving the issue, just rendering it irrelevant.

[Arafal]

Reminder to update all your addons today as you won't be able to till December.