1. #1261
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    What if that leak with worgen knight while human/scary while worgen is real. Blizzard delayed the race questline and armor until 8.3 so Blizzcon is still a surprise.
    What is worgen knight leak?

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    https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1170103997891563520
    WoW_Rebrand?

  2. #1262
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Rider View Post
    What is worgen knight leak?

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    WoW_Rebrand?
    From my vague recollection the Worgen knight thing was from a leak where the poster claimed that the Worgen heritage armor would be knight inspired, and it would have 2 different version based on which form you were in. Normal looking knight for Human form and torn up and horror inspired for Worgen. (Might be some errors in my memory though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Rider View Post
    Orcs VS Humans changes into Orcs VS Humans who turn into buff super wolves. I'd say that is a step in the right direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    From my vague recollection the Worgen knight thing was from a leak where the poster claimed that the Worgen heritage armor would be knight inspired, and it would have 2 different version based on which form you were in. Normal looking knight for Human form and torn up and horror inspired for Worgen. (Might be some errors in my memory though.)
    That would be cool. Gilneas needs more love. My second fav place after Pandaria.

  4. #1264
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Orcs VS Humans changes into Orcs VS Humans who turn into buff super wolves. I'd say that is a step in the right direction.



    That would be cool. Gilneas needs more love. My second fav place after Pandaria.
    I love the Worgen and Gilneas so much. Part of my reasoning for wanting a world revamp is just to make it more likely we can have Gilneas city as a capital. Would be amazing, and would give an actual reason to go back there, and also potentially for Blizz to fill the area with some NPCs so it is not quite as barren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I love the Worgen and Gilneas so much. Part of my reasoning for wanting a world revamp is just to make it more likely we can have Gilneas city as a capital. Would be amazing, and would give an actual reason to go back there, and also potentially for Blizz to fill the area with some NPCs so it is not quite as barren.
    And to continue the story. Both the Worgen curse and Gilneas as a nation have a cool story. And now they are connected.

  6. #1266
    Well.. the massive success of the classic reboot makes blizzard want to try to get as many players who returned to classic to retail as possible. Which means, retail will likely to be recatered to the current classic crowd. Which means, people who like to play WoW retail casually, will have a bad time in the upcoming expansion.
    Rinse and repeat. For the rewards. Send even more turtles into the water.

  7. #1267
    Quote Originally Posted by Archipelagos View Post
    If they really do a 'Sylvanas was Azeroth's true hero' all along twist there's going to be an apocalypse across the boards.
    I would be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Skinner View Post
    Well.. the massive success of the classic reboot makes blizzard want to try to get as many players who returned to classic to retail as possible. Which means, retail will likely to be recatered to the current classic crowd. Which means, people who like to play WoW retail casually, will have a bad time in the upcoming expansion.
    Good news, this is the 9.0 thread and not the 10.0 thread.

    All the 9.0 features have been set in stone for a while now, and Blizz is likely Blizzcon-ready at this point. (meaning go look at the state expansions were in last Blizzcon and that's about where we are now).

    Anything influenced by August 2019 isn't gonna be seen until 9.1 EARLIEST, given prior expansion trends probably not until 9.2 or later.
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    Retail - Wyrmrest Accord (A) | Classic - Bloodsail Buccaneers (A) | FFXIV - Crystal Datacenter

  9. #1269
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Good news, this is the 9.0 thread and not the 10.0 thread.
    When it fits their bias, the devs can be very fast. Only things they do not lilke to implement take them years.
    Rinse and repeat. For the rewards. Send even more turtles into the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Skinner View Post
    When it fits their bias, the devs can be very fast. Only things they do not lilke to implement take them years.
    Well, look at it this way. If there is classic for the classic crowd, they can move further away with retail. No point in keeping two similar games. This is their chance to maintain two different kinds of MMORPG-s. They will play the same sub after all.

  11. #1271
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Well, look at it this way. If there is classic for the classic crowd, they can move further away with retail. No point in keeping two similar games. This is their chance to maintain two different kinds of MMORPG-s. They will play the same sub after all.
    Well, but blizzard is going to want to move the classic players onto their marketplace. And they cannot sell mounts or pets for classic, or they would break the authenticity. So what would you do to get the classic players to play retail?
    Rinse and repeat. For the rewards. Send even more turtles into the water.

  12. #1272
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Well, look at it this way. If there is classic for the classic crowd, they can move further away with retail. No point in keeping two similar games. This is their chance to maintain two different kinds of MMORPG-s. They will play the same sub after all.
    Yea, can't see them going down the classic road with retail either. The danger of alienating players that like retail would be too big. Perhaps with things like talent trees, but they won't delete LFR or make harder heroic dungeons and stuff. That would drive a lot of players from the game in the long run.

  13. #1273
    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Skinner View Post
    Well.. the massive success of the classic reboot makes blizzard want to try to get as many players who returned to classic to retail as possible. Which means, retail will likely to be recatered to the current classic crowd. Which means, people who like to play WoW retail casually, will have a bad time in the upcoming expansion.
    This logic doesn't work. Why would they make retail more like classic when classic is already there and people are paying for it?
    Right now we have classic-lovers who play classic, retail-lovers who play retail and those who like and play both.
    Suppose Blizzard makes retail more classic-like, what happens? They lose a lot of people who like retail. Those who like both lose their options and stop liking WoW as much as they do now. And classic-lovers just spread out between two versions of the game without affecting total sub numbers at all.
    You don't need a degree in marketing to see this.
    If anything Blizzard will make retail even more different than classic abolishing mmo-elements and moving into session-based gameplay. Why? Because they now have classic to catch those people who like mmo experience and abandoning mmo roots lets them go into a new (for WoW) and larger market.

  14. #1274
    Quote Originally Posted by LorDC View Post
    This logic doesn't work. Why would they make retail more like classic when classic is already there and people are paying for it?
    Due to wanting them to participate in their microtransaction market.
    Rinse and repeat. For the rewards. Send even more turtles into the water.

  15. #1275
    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Skinner View Post
    Due to wanting them to participate in their microtransaction market.
    As much as people want to cry about it, MTs are not that big of money-source to make up for sub loss.

  16. #1276
    Quote Originally Posted by LorDC View Post
    As much as people want to cry about it, MTs are not that big of money-source to make up for sub loss.
    Actually, activision blizzard makes more money with MT than ever before. 2017 they made $4.1bn
    Rinse and repeat. For the rewards. Send even more turtles into the water.

  17. #1277
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Well, look at it this way. If there is classic for the classic crowd, they can move further away with retail. No point in keeping two similar games. This is their chance to maintain two different kinds of MMORPG-s. They will play the same sub after all.
    Indeed, Classic players who like it so much they want to keep playing will keep playing Classic, but won't touch Retail even if it becomes "closer to Classic". Those that don't prefer Classic want a Retail that's not that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Skinner View Post
    Actually, activision blizzard makes more money with MT than ever before. 2017 they made $4.1bn
    Activision Blizzard, sure. But not Blizzard themselves. And definitely not WoW. Overwatch, Hearthstone and HotS live off lootboxes, card packs etc., sure, but the subs themselves will always top any mount&pet purchases overall.

  18. #1278
    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Skinner View Post
    Actually, activision blizzard makes more money with MT than ever before. 2017 they made $4.1bn
    You do realise that ATVI has a lot of games besides WoW and a lot of them work pretty much on MTs alone (like HS and HOTS for example). This number does not say anything.

  19. #1279
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    From my vague recollection the Worgen knight thing was from a leak where the poster claimed that the Worgen heritage armor would be knight inspired, and it would have 2 different version based on which form you were in. Normal looking knight for Human form and torn up and horror inspired for Worgen. (Might be some errors in my memory though.)
    Thanks for the answer.
    I think Worgen heritage armor will be like Genns armor

  20. #1280
    Quote Originally Posted by LorDC View Post
    You do realise that ATVI has a lot of games besides WoW and a lot of them work pretty much on MTs alone (like HS and HOTS for example). This number does not say anything.
    It says a lot. It also says that if blizzard wants to monetize classic, they have to include its players into retail.
    Rinse and repeat. For the rewards. Send even more turtles into the water.

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