WoW Necromancer Hero Class

[Xanesh]

This is so cool! Too cool to ever be a class Blizzard would add. I imagine if they give us necromancer it won't be as creative as your ideas here. But thanks for sharing such an awesome concept.

Imagine how dull this would be in China with all the bone censorship. xD

[Wangming]

First thing first: You did an amazing ammount of work on these. I don't know how this would work with the raid meta or the pvp balance so can't comment on those, but I really appreciate how much thought went into these. And I love the faithless necromancer idea. I once tried to do a similar one for FFXIV with class stories and everything. If you want I can try to look for it.

Found it. It was harder than I believed cause Necros are very popular. Especially healer necros.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t....0-Necromancer

A few things:

- As weird as Pandaren necromancer would sound, they don't have access to any of the hero classes. They need some love.
- If Necromancer starts at or before 100 you will need a Class Order and three artifact weapons.
- Undeath Necromancers need some work. The undead forms only give advantages. Much like Moonkin or Shadowform I dislike forms that don't have durations or disadvantages so they are just switched on and left. These abilities don't really interact with others and are just boring. I know WoW does these a lot, but I don't like them.

[Shandita]

[Amunrasonther]

Excellent work on this fan concept.

Thank you!

Hmm... didn't read in much, I suppose it's kind of revised this yours one. Am I right, or am I right?

I can't say something specific regarding concept, but it’s a bit messy: old one was less “redundant of decorations”, only what was needed (by the way, start part was decent, deformation started closer to its end).

Revised is an understatement, and I may have gotten a little carried away with the art, but this one has borders!

Respect for that work you put into it, looking great!

Thank you!

Nice effort, but they won't be such thing as 130 level. ;P

lol yes, I made the talents reach 130 before I heard about the level squish, but leaked rumors have it there will be a delay in the squish.

I'm going to give you a serious answer because you deserve as much given your effort, I can see this working .

I'm especially fond of the faithless spec tbh, though my concerns lie with the other specs or specifically the undeath as it steppes slightly on unholy DK's toes when it comes to raising the dead, if this were to go through they'd be forced to remove some of the functionalities of UH, mainly army of the dead and raise dead, the spec would have to shift more into the disease department, though they could keep their permanent pets so long as necromancers only ever has non permanent/duration based summons it can fit properly.

The only other spec that might have similarities at that point with undeath would be demo lock with their hordes of minions but their style leans towards the demonic which is defining enough to set them apart from necros.

Overall, I doubt the DKs would be glad to part with some of the UH kit though.

I don't see it much of a problem. There's no rule that says two classes can't summon the same type of mob, as both Shamans and Mages use elementals. My Undeath is nowhere near the theme of Unholy as the Undeath Necromancer is capable of turning permanently undead. Also all of my Necromancers pets are duration based, so DKs can keep the permanent theme. Thank you for your post!

Inject this into my veins

It makes me extremely happy you like it!!

But draenai really?

I want to be an evil Draenei god damn it! In all honesty, I didn't put too much thought into which races should be allowed to become Necromancers. I just chose the races I like.

Good job sir.

Thank you!

i see your point but having two HERO classes with similar abilities it wont happen. i respect what your trying to say but it should not be a hero class. maybe a allied class option?

I definitely only see the Necromancer class as an addition made during an undead expansion. The scourge will make a comeback eventually.

kind of looks more like a chemist/alchemist class.

Only the one spec, but there are many connections between alchemy and necromancy.

This is so cool! Too cool to ever be a class Blizzard would add. I imagine if they give us necromancer it won't be as creative as your ideas here. But thanks for sharing such an awesome concept.

Imagine how dull this would be in China with all the bone censorship. xD

Thank you and I agree, Blizz lacks in the creative department these days.

First thing first: You did an amazing ammount of work on these. I don't know how this would work with the raid meta or the pvp balance so can't comment on those, but I really appreciate how much thought went into these. And I love the faithless necromancer idea. I once tried to do a similar one for FFXIV with class stories and everything. If you want I can try to look for it.

Found it. It was harder than I believed cause Necros are very popular. Especially healer necros.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t....0-Necromancer

A few things:

- As weird as Pandaren necromancer would sound, they don't have access to any of the hero classes. They need some love.
- If Necromancer starts at or before 100 you will need a Class Order and three artifact weapons.
- Undeath Necromancers need some work. The undead forms only give advantages. Much like Moonkin or Shadowform I dislike forms that don't have durations or disadvantages so they are just switched on and left. These abilities don't really interact with others and are just boring. I know WoW does these a lot, but I don't like them.

I'll definitely check out your FFXIV concept!

I guess depending on what lore they use as to WHY Necromancers become a class would have to explain whether or not Panderan begin to practice necromancy. I'm not against the idea. Yes, I also believe any new class that comes into WoW will be after level 100 so that they do not need to make a class hall/artifact weapon. As for Undeath's forms, there is a major disadvantage in the talent forms and that's your damage decreases by 30%. The other forms are meant for utility only (Nerubian-tank, Stalker-mobility, mummy-healing). So that's why their abilities are relatively simple. It's their passive effects that make them powerful, but if you want to deal damage, you have to switch back to your Lich form.

@Shandita - thank you!

[Amunrasonther]

Now you killed the concept

They can't do it your way, because you could sue them over taking your ideas (and ofc they can't take a lot of the cool concept art, because it belongs to other artists)

But indeed, a passionate, nicely presented effort.

I gladly relinquish ownership of all ideas presented in this thread! Lol. There.

Thank you so much!

[RangerDaz]

Cool concept mate. Lots of effort put on this, we can tell.

I still prefer dark rangers and tinkers first though, because they are more diverse from the current playable classes.

[Skulltaker]

Damn dude! You sure put in a lot of effort. I'll read through it proper when I have the time to spare! Very nice work, from a first glance.

If they did put a necromancer in the game it better have a spec that lets you summon a army of undead and then go afk as they dps for you.

That's called 'LFR'.

[justandulas]

marry me

jk i love this man. So well done and thorough. I really wish this was official

[Jonnusthegreat]

I wish there were only 4 classes in wow with each having 9 specs.

[Zenfoldor]

Wow, awesome. edit: actually I will remove blizz bashing. Just want to say great job, this is great. Old school quality, reminds me of when devs are just starting out and still care about their creation. Great stuff.

[arkanon]

Certainly far superior than any tinker builds I have seen. They always seem so shallow and independant from the game. You have put thought into how they will function in the game world, on their own two feet. And unlike the tinker crap, it isn't just a bunch of abilities and systems that already exist in the game, but with new names and icons - there is enough here to make a unique and interesting class.

Although I fully expect mechanic to be added "soon", I doubt it will look anything like the generic "tinker" copy paste stuff on these forums.

Great work, I'm sure this took a lot of time. As such, I will take more time to read through it while in the office, and try to give it a proper opinion.

[Wolfrick]

THIS IS REAL NECROMANCER LOVE!!! YES.... YES AND YES!!! WELL DONE WORK 10/10.... i hope with all my heart they will come soon.....

Since I have WANTED NECROMACERS SINCE 2005...... my main race in Warcraft 3 where undead and I love the necromancers!!!!

PS: even in Elder Scrolls Online... they made a new class just a month ago "THE NECROMANCER"... we need something like that in World of Warcraft... but I would like it a heavy summoner class.... many skeletons and golems.

PSS: to me a pefect Necromacer would be the necromacer from DIABLO II.... just love the ideas behind it...


PSSS: The Necromancer class should NOT be a HERO CLASS, I think it should start from level 1... since it could make you feel like Necormacer Scolar of some sort and that would fit with the Lore, since many Necromcaers started within other schools of magic then moved over to Necromancy

[Teriz]

Nicely done Amun! Despite our difference of opinion, this is a masterwork. Looks great, and amazing job with the visuals.

[Khain]

My only problem with this is that necromancers are not a hero class.

[Polybius]

Certainly far superior than any tinker builds I have seen. They always seem so shallow and independant from the game. You have put thought into how they will function in the game world, on their own two feet. And unlike the tinker crap, it isn't just a bunch of abilities and systems that already exist in the game, but with new names and icons - there is enough here to make a unique and interesting class.

Although I fully expect mechanic to be added "soon", I doubt it will look anything like the generic "tinker" copy paste stuff on these forums.

Great work, I'm sure this took a lot of time. As such, I will take more time to read through it while in the office, and try to give it a proper opinion.

Talk about being salty We get it, you loathe tinker/mech themes.

On topic: Cool concept, I wasn't sure if you were the same person who came up with the plague canisters idea from a previous thread.

[Kallor]

Nice effort, and well done. But to nickpit a bit: The Necromancer is lorewise a normal class, not a hero class. A Dark Ranger, or a Lich would be a hero class.

Blizzard have used the term hero class for classes that are inspired by the "Hero units" from WC3 (with the exception of Paladin, but that was before they added the concept of a hero class to WoW).

[MuricaIsDead]

This Necromancer sounds a LOT like Hillary Clinton...

[zlygork]

You had me at "healer" you get my vote.

[Kyphael]

Best concept thread I've seen here, and I like that you specified "level 130" intead of adhering to the awful idea of the level squish. Introducing chemist specs would also help it differentiate it further from Warlock/DK.

The only thing though... I hope it wouldn't be a hero class, only because Necromancer feels like a regular class like Mage/Warlock and I'd love to play it from 1-130 since it's so bad ass. Other than that, just take my money now.

[Amunrasonther]

Cool concept mate. Lots of effort put on this, we can tell.

I still prefer dark rangers and tinkers first though, because they are more diverse from the current playable classes.

Back years ago when I made the first concept, I wanted to try and bake the Necromancer and Dark Ranger together, but I couldn't make it work. Thaks though!

Damn dude! You sure put in a lot of effort. I'll read through it proper when I have the time to spare! Very nice work, from a first glance.

Much appreciated! Yes, please do, there's so much detail I'm mad sometimes how much thought I put into these lol.

marry me

jk i love this man. So well done and thorough. I really wish this was official

haha, thank you. Me too!

Wow, awesome. edit: actually I will remove blizz bashing. Just want to say great job, this is great. Old school quality, reminds me of when devs are just starting out and still care about their creation. Great stuff.

I didn't get to see your Blizz bashing but don't worry, I have my fair share of frustration with them too. I haven't played hardly any of BFA because of how bad I feel things are, and I'm a Vanilla player who has never stopped once...till now!

Certainly far superior than any tinker builds I have seen. They always seem so shallow and independant from the game. You have put thought into how they will function in the game world, on their own two feet. And unlike the tinker crap, it isn't just a bunch of abilities and systems that already exist in the game, but with new names and icons - there is enough here to make a unique and interesting class.

Although I fully expect mechanic to be added "soon", I doubt it will look anything like the generic "tinker" copy paste stuff on these forums.

Great work, I'm sure this took a lot of time. As such, I will take more time to read through it while in the office, and try to give it a proper opinion.

Yes, it's very important to think of the playstyles and how spells will synergize with each other. Thank you, and please do! I'd love some deep insight.

THIS IS REAL NECROMANCER LOVE!!! YES.... YES AND YES!!! WELL DONE WORK 10/10.... i hope with all my heart they will come soon.....

Since I have WANTED NECROMACERS SINCE 2005...... my main race in Warcraft 3 where undead and I love the necromancers!!!!

PS: even in Elder Scrolls Online... they made a new class just a month ago "THE NECROMANCER"... we need something like that in World of Warcraft... but I would like it a heavy summoner class.... many skeletons and golems.

PSS: to me a pefect Necromacer would be the necromacer from DIABLO II.... just love the ideas behind it...


PSSS: The Necromancer class should NOT be a HERO CLASS, I think it should start from level 1... since it could make you feel like Necormacer Scolar of some sort and that would fit with the Lore, since many Necromcaers started within other schools of magic then moved over to Necromancy

Who knows, Blizz might and try to pull some of the Necromancer ESO hype off them and make their own concept!

Nicely done Amun! Despite our difference of opinion, this is a masterwork. Looks great, and amazing job with the visuals.

That means a lot. I've always enjoyed and been inspired by your concept creations.

well you got me i like the healing spec of the necromancer

When I play WoW I'm normally a healer, so I have to admit, Faithless is my favorite spec of the three!

My only problem with this is that necromancers are not a hero class.

I only really added the "hero class" part because I can't see Blizzard ever taking the time to make an artifact weapon for a new class. Who knows, maybe they can!

Talk about being salty We get it, you loathe tinker/mech themes.

On topic: Cool concept, I wasn't sure if you were the same person who came up with the plague canisters idea from a previous thread.

Thank you!

Nice effort, and well done. But to nickpit a bit: The Necromancer is lorewise a normal class, not a hero class. A Dark Ranger, or a Lich would be a hero class.

Blizzard have used the term hero class for classes that are inspired by the "Hero units" from WC3 (with the exception of Paladin, but that was before they added the concept of a hero class to WoW).

As I said above, I only made them a hero class because I can't see Blizzard taking the time to make an artifact weapon for new classes, but maybe since this concept incorporates a Lich spec it can pass the hero class test, haha.

This Necromancer sounds a LOT like Hillary Clinton...

lol....thank you?

You had me at "healer" you get my vote.

Yes, it's my favorite part of the concept too! One day...

Best concept thread I've seen here, and I like that you specified "level 130" intead of adhering to the awful idea of the level squish. Introducing chemist specs would also help it differentiate it further from Warlock/DK.

The only thing though... I hope it wouldn't be a hero class, only because Necromancer feels like a regular class like Mage/Warlock and I'd love to play it from 1-130 since it's so bad ass. Other than that, just take my money now.

Thanks for looking at the talents! I always feel like nobody really looks at those when I put just as much thought into them, haha. Perhaps if Blizzard makes artifact weapons for new classes it could be just a regular class. Thank you!!