View Poll Results: Do you want tinkers as new class in WoW?

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  1. #1321
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Expansion classes are tied to major lore figures, and Blizzard has used WC3 and HotS to base abilities for those new classes. Gazlowe obtaining HotS Tinker abilities in WoW is a huge step towards a possible Tinker class inclusion. I dont see a situation like that for the other class concepts you mentioned.
    You didn't see Sylvanas using her banshee abilities to fly around the place? It's been shown in both the BFA cinematic and in the Battle of Lordaeron conclusion. She was never shown being able to do that in Legion, and that ability looks very much inspired by Haunting Wave's teleport mechanic.
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  2. #1322
    We don't need any new classes to screw balance up even more than it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    You didn't see Sylvanas using her banshee abilities to fly around the place? It's been shown in both the BFA cinematic and in the Battle of Lordaeron conclusion. She was never shown being able to do that in Legion, and that ability looks very much inspired by Haunting Wave's teleport mechanic.
    Well that's the thing; Her Banshee abilities both lorewise and gameplay wise appear to be exclusive to her and her alone. None of her Dark Ranger lieutenants (including Nathanos) have them, nor do the Night Elf Dark Rangers she raised.
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  4. #1324
    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    You liking something doesnt mean jack shit. These elements dont belong in a high fantasy setting. This is a discussion and not a whine so dont be offended little crybaby.
    I hate to break it to you, cupcake, but that feeble and pathetic attempt to counter what I said is exactly that: Feeble and pathetic.

    You're just flat-out wrong. Blizzard created the setting. They chose to incorporate these elements. No matter how much you wanna pound on the ground crying, your opinion on the subject means fuck-all. It's their setting, they're in 100% control of what goes into it, and 100% in control of what they think fits or doesn't fit. It's a part of the setting, and the game.

    Deal with it or find something else to waste your time/money on. No one will care either way. Again: Your opinion literally means nothing. It's absolutely worthless; reality has no bearing on it, and nothing will change because of what you erroneously believe "should" be in or out of the setting.
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  5. #1325
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    But we know that Goblins can put entire towns inside a box, so obviously they have the tech to put a mech into a backpack right? Since we know that Goblins can put towns into boxes, what stops a Tinker from simply having a backpack to carry his or her mech in? That could in fact help explain where the mech goes when the Tinker isnt in combat mode.

    Essentially all the pieces are in place, just some minor details have been altered to make the concept more acceptable to a wider audience.
    Except one important thing: putting things back in the box.

    To make matters worse, we don't know the process of "putting things in the box" in the first place. For all we know, it requires a big machine to miniaturize whatever goes into the box, and if that's the case, it'd defeat the purpose of using that technology.
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  6. #1326
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Well that's the thing; Her Banshee abilities both lorewise and gameplay wise appear to be exclusive to her and her alone. None of her Dark Ranger lieutenants (including Nathanos) have them, nor do the Night Elf Dark Rangers she raised.
    Probably not, because those abilities would probably be reserved for a player class. Kinda like we never saw Demon Hunters with Illidan's HOTS abilities either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Kinda curious that no other NPC has Gazlowe's abilities from HOTS either then eh?
    Actually the HotS abilities are spread out among the members of the Island Expedition teams and on both factions.

    Nice edit btw;

    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Probably not, because those abilities would probably be reserved for a player class. Kinda like we never saw Demon Hunters with Illidan's HOTS abilities either.
    No, but we saw them with Illidan's WC3 abilities. Keep in mind, we didn't see many Demon Hunters in WoW after TBC, and TBC predates HotS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Except one important thing: putting things back in the box.

    To make matters worse, we don't know the process of "putting things in the box" in the first place. For all we know, it requires a big machine to miniaturize whatever goes into the box, and if that's the case, it'd defeat the purpose of using that technology.
    I think the fact that this absurd concept exists in the game in the first place kind of outweighs the concerns you're mentioning here.

    I mean, they even have City in a Box and Landing Strip in a Box, and you're trying to apply something as trivial as the power source that makes this all possible? I really don't think that matters once we've gotten to the point where Goblins can carry around entire cities (with people presumably inside those buildings) inside small little boxes.
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  8. #1328
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Actually the HotS abilities are spread out among the members of the Island Expedition teams and on both factions.
    As NPCs we kill, right?

    So far Player Classes like Death Knights, Monks and Demon Hunters have new abilities that aren't taken from NPCs. It's probably the best that those abilities be on NPCs, so that the Tinker class has room for new abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    As NPCs we kill, right?

    So far Player Classes like Death Knights, Monks and Demon Hunters have new abilities that aren't taken from NPCs. It's probably the best that those abilities be on NPCs, so that the Tinker class has room for new abilities.
    But all three have abilities that have come from their respective WC3 and HotS incarnations. Thats the point.

    Also I don't think you really kill the Island Expedition guys. Gazlowe's Greasemonkeys for example pop up again in Mechagon.
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  10. #1330
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Funkenstein View Post
    I hate to break it to you, cupcake, but that feeble and pathetic attempt to counter what I said is exactly that: Feeble and pathetic.

    You're just flat-out wrong. Blizzard created the setting. They chose to incorporate these elements. No matter how much you wanna pound on the ground crying, your opinion on the subject means fuck-all. It's their setting, they're in 100% control of what goes into it, and 100% in control of what they think fits or doesn't fit. It's a part of the setting, and the game.

    Deal with it or find something else to waste your time/money on. No one will care either way. Again: Your opinion literally means nothing. It's absolutely worthless; reality has no bearing on it, and nothing will change because of what you erroneously believe "should" be in or out of the setting.
    I hate to break it to you, but your opinion on this subject means fuck-all. Again: Your opinion literally means nothing. It's absolutely worthless; reality has no bearing on it, and nothing will change because of what you erroneously believe "should" be in or out of the setting.


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  11. #1331
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Canon only means what is officially seen in the fictional story/universe. Other instances of it appearing in other games don't apply, and like I said, canon doesn't fucking matter to any new class so I don't know why you guys need to try to make it sound like Blizzard HAS to officially recognize it in the story.

    Canon is JUST the story, so unless you care about having claw packs appear officially right now, theres no reason to even care about canon. Just like information on Anduins blood type or what Jainas fave food is, there is no canon for that either and it don't matter at all

    Ielenia's point is useless, and honestly I don't understand why you even want to get baited on his argument about Tinkers in the Story. Like I explained, even Death Knights and Demon Hunters in WOW are a new breed and not to the WC3 ones
    Canon is the story and the world around it. Just because it's not a part of the story doesn't mean it's not part of Warcraft. We could take Harry Potter for example. Do you know of a creature called an Augurey? There isn't a single mention of them in the actual storyline. You can read books 1-7 and never hear of them. But they exist in the canon. They exist in the lore. Much like the Tinker. Yes, it isn't strictly part of WoW, but the claw backpack is in pretty much everything surrounding it. Like, I'm 90% sure the only reason they haven't put the claw backpack into WoW is that yes, Tinkers aren't a huge part of WoW right now and who wants to put resources into that when they can just have tinkers in a shredder with a model that's already there.

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